This is hypothetical, let’s say you install a new air intake in the honda civic si 2023, and then you get a check engine light like months later or even years later for whatever reason. Would honda still be able to fix that issue within the warranty regardless of the intake bolt on? How would they determine if the intake was the issue?
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I’m not sure if they really HAVE to attribute the issue to the intake or can just tell you any modifications void your warranty and have a nice day
So in theory, lets say they tell me to fuck off. Could I install the stock intake back then just go to another service center and act like its my first time? Lmaoo
I have no idea if they share some kind of directory/record system for the VIN or not. Best idea if you’re that concerned is either A. Swap the stock intake on if you have a problem B. Fix the CEL yourself C. Don’t mod the car
True, i mean it really only takes me not even 30 minutes to replace the intake anyways lmaoo, so i guess worst case id just go with option B. And if i can’t figure it out then swap the intake back with the stock, then take it to the service center. I don’t plan on Tuning it either so there wont be a history on the computer of a tune anyways, i drive a lot so ill be up with my warranty in no time anyways too 😂😂
I did a PRL drop in filter for this reason, nice and easy and adds a little sound. Didn’t plan to tune, so the cone filters were a no go, and personally not huge on loud turbo sounds in a daily. My Miata sounds like a jet all the time, but it’s only fun in moderation lol
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If you are in the USA, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act says the manufacturer cannot require that you leave the car stock or use only OEM parts or consumables. If Honda can prove that your intake caused an issue, or you caused an issue when installing it, they can refuse related warranty service. From my understanding, it is up to the warranty provider to prove that the modification was the cause of the problem.
A common example is where a vehicle owner installs a new muffler, and the transmission fails. The manufacturer would have to be able to prove, not just that the replacement could be responsible for the transmission to fail, but that it did cause the failure. (For example, the muffler fails in a way that blows hot exhaust gas directly onto the part of the transmission housing where the electronics are, and the trans failed due to the electronics overheating.)
On the other hand, if you replace the intake, and get a CEL due to a mass air flow sensor, it would be easy to say the two are related.
There is a tricky middle ground when it comes to doing things like installing or swapping out turbochargers, adjusting fuel maps, or installing aftermarket ECUs. It gets easier to blame things on major changes.
A common example is where a vehicle owner installs a new muffler, and the transmission fails. The manufacturer would have to be able to prove, not just that the replacement could be responsible for the transmission to fail, but that it did cause the failure. (For example, the muffler fails in a way that blows hot exhaust gas directly onto the part of the transmission housing where the electronics are, and the trans failed due to the electronics overheating.)
On the other hand, if you replace the intake, and get a CEL due to a mass air flow sensor, it would be easy to say the two are related.
There is a tricky middle ground when it comes to doing things like installing or swapping out turbochargers, adjusting fuel maps, or installing aftermarket ECUs. It gets easier to blame things on major changes.
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I'm a stock guy so my knowledge base may be off here, but if you don't tune the ECU what is the benefit of an intake?
Turbo sounds, so people around you don’t forget
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Oh... so the type of car owners I normally turn to my passenger and we mutually mock as they pass by?
Basically. I mean my Miata makes a ton of crazy turbo noises all the time, but it also doesn’t run 15 second 1/4 miles so it can be a little more flamboyant IMO.
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