The 2.0 NA, is anyone else happy with it like I am?

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JSD43

Discussion Starter · 4 mo ago

Hey y’all,

Am I the only one happy with their 2.0 NA engine? Certainly there are others that like it. Granted, it doesn’t have as much low end torque as the 1.5T, or overall HP, but to me it still has adequate power below 4,000 rpm and actually good power above 4,000 rpm. And I actually like the feel of it, the way the power builds quickly above 3,500 rpm, and continues all the way to redline. Overall I’m pleased with the power delivery. And since I’ve owned my car, I’ve consistently gotten between 32-36 mpg on my 116 mile round trip commute to and from work. I like that it was designed to run on regular octane gas from the start. Some folks have mentioned that the lack of a turbo means fewer repairs down the road. I suspect that may be the case, but only if you plan to put 300k or more miles on the car. In less than 12 years, at my current rate, I’ll have 500,000 miles on this car, and I hope to keep it twice that long. And last, but not least, I absolutely love this six speed manual transmission. To me, it’s the perfect mate to this little motor. While in high speed interstate traffic, I relish dropping to third and matching the revs for a perfect downshift and surge of oomph. So, how about it? Anyone else that’s happy with their 2.0 NA with no regrets?

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burnafterreading

· #21 · 18 d ago

How I see it:

2.0 pros:
timing chain
port injection
NA engine
Essentially detuned K series engine. Under-strained, lazy engines = longetivity. The V8's in the Crown vic's and Lexus LS 4xx series are examples of this.

checks off a lot of what would make an engine reliable. MPG considered it is marginal between the 2.0 and 1.5T, only in city driving.

Oil dilution issues, carbon build-up from direct injection, and other high PSI problems associated with turbos are just not there. That's not to say they will be with Honda's 1.5T option but they will be inherently present.

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Joden Thorne

· #22 · 18 d ago

burnafterreading said:
How I see it:

2.0 pros:
timing chain
port injection
NA engine
Essentially detuned K series engine. Under-strained, lazy engines = longetivity. The V8's in the Crown vic's and Lexus LS 4xx series are examples of this.

checks off a lot of what would make an engine reliable. MPG considered it is marginal between the 2.0 and 1.5T, only in city driving.

Oil dilution issues, carbon build-up from direct injection, and other high PSI problems associated with turbos are just not there. That's not to say they will be with Honda's 1.5T option but they will be inherently present.

It’s exactly for this lazy under tune that I feel comfortable pushing the car to higher RPM’s every now and then without fear of damage.

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burnafterreading

· #23 · 18 d ago

Joden Thorne said:
It’s exactly for this lazy under tune that I feel comfortable pushing the car to higher RPM’s every now and then without fear of damage.

I'm assuming by higher you mean redline it? You really should be fine and WOT time to time can be good. I figure you are not doing it at every stoplight and stopsign and past break-in period.

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Joden Thorne

· #24 · 18 d ago

burnafterreading said:
I'm assuming by higher you mean redline it? You really should be fine and WOT time to time can be good. I figure you are not doing it at every stoplight and stopsign and past break-in period.

Oh yeah, I bring it usually only to around 4-4.5 when I’m “having fun” because much further and I’m already breaking the law.

I’ve only redlined It like four times

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JSD43

Discussion Starter · #25 · 18 d ago

burnafterreading said:
How I see it:

2.0 pros:
timing chain
port injection
NA engine
Essentially detuned K series engine. Under-strained, lazy engines = longetivity. The V8's in the Crown vic's and Lexus LS 4xx series are examples of this.

checks off a lot of what would make an engine reliable. MPG considered it is marginal between the 2.0 and 1.5T, only in city driving.

Oil dilution issues, carbon build-up from direct injection, and other high PSI problems associated with turbos are just not there. That's not to say they will be with Honda's 1.5T option but they will be inherently present.

The dealer says that the 2.0 is direct injected. And so does Honda’s website. Looking under the hood, you can see the high pressure fuel pump. Maybe in times past it was port injected, but no longer. Still, I think it’s a great motor as you said.

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burnafterreading

· #26 · 17 d ago

JSD43 said:
The dealer says that the 2.0 is direct injected. And so does Honda’s website. Looking under the hood, you can see the high pressure fuel pump. Maybe in times past it was port injected, but no longer. Still, I think it’s a great motor as you said.

I'm looking at the Honda Canada website and it specifically states port injection for the 2.0 engine equipped to the the Honda Civic hatchback or sedan. The U.S site says it in a different way by calling it "Multi-point fuel injection" which is all intent and purposes is port injection. I believe the 2.0T is direct injection which is on some version of the Civic. I really only have surface knowledge of these new engines from reading around past week shopping for cars.

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Heartland2022

· #27 · 16 d ago (Edited)

JSD43 said:
The dealer says that the 2.0 is direct injected. And so does Honda’s website. Looking under the hood, you can see the high pressure fuel pump. Maybe in times past it was port injected, but no longer. Still, I think it’s a great motor as you said.

The K series engine has quite a few engines in the series. The one we are talking about is in the earth dreams era. The one the dealer is probably talking about is the K20C1. It is used in a Type R with direct injection and a turbocharger. The one we are talking about that is port injected or multipoint however you want to look at it. It is the K20C2 in the K series engines. Here are there listed applications very similar engines.

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Here is a complete breakdown of how each compared to one another. Sometimes this engine is referred to as the NA 2.0 L. For obvious reasons because of where it's produced. Here's what makes the Honda Civic base 2.0L NA engine & the Civic Type R 2.0L Turbo engine different - Alt Car news

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