[jsm59]

It is the rack, they replaced mine and so far so good. I just hope it was from a different batch. Service advisor said something binds once it heats up but they can't figure out exactly which component it is.

Thanks Lokke85. Please keep us updated.

As mentioned in the other steering thread on this board ('22 Lx steering sticking), have a deposit on a '23 EX. I won't take it unless cause/resolution, number of vehicles affected, etc, becomes clear and Honda puts out a TSB or recall by that time or otherwise publicizes it. Otherwise, each dealer will guess and have different "resolutions" including saying nothing wrong per above stories.

Since you went 22+k before your issue started, could be a while to have better idea if fixed. If more get rack replaced, may start to get a better idea.

In process of replacing rack, does the car have the same exact "feel" as did before issue began, i.e did dealer screw up anything else in process, including something as small as steering wheel not being centered, etc?

 

[johntracy1102]

Thanks Lokke85.

Please keep us updated. As mentioned in the other steering thread on this board (Lx steering sticking), have a deposit on a '23 EX and I won't consider taking it until the cause/resolution becomes 100% clear and Honda has a TSB or recall Otherwise each dealer will give different "resolutions" including saying nothing wrong.

Since you went 23k before your issue started, could be a while to have better idea if fixed.

Well said, and I totally agree. Right now it’s like going to different doctors saying “my right knee gets stiff and hurts after 15 minutes of running” and having the first doctor have you walk around the exam room for 45 seconds and declare you fine, the second having you jog around the office for couple minutes and write you a Rx, and the third going for a run with you and suggesting total knee replacement.

 

[Soap]

It's so weird. I posted above that I was going to call the dealer today, but I drove on the highway again this morning and it felt totally normal. My initial thought before finding this thread was that it could be a software issue, since it kind of felt like the lane departure system fighting me slightly, but then reading here made me think it was mechanical. Would a mechanical issue just go away like this the next time you start the car, though? So weird.

I had the same experience the next time I drove the civic (which I rarely do) The issue all of a sudden was no longer present for me. Will have to keep an eye on it.

 

[Lokke85]

Thanks Lokke85. Please keep us updated.

As mentioned in the other steering thread on this board ('22 Lx steering sticking), have a deposit on a '23 EX. I won't take it unless cause/resolution, number of vehicles affected, etc, becomes clear and Honda puts out a TSB or recall by that time or otherwise publicizes it. Otherwise, each dealer will guess and have different "resolutions" including saying nothing wrong per above stories.

Since you went 22+k before your issue started, could be a while to have better idea if fixed. If more get rack replaced, may start to get a better idea.

In process of replacing rack, does the car have the same exact "feel" as did before issue began, i.e did dealer screw up anything else in process, including something as small as steering wheel not being centered, etc?

I've driven distances where it would act up prior to the rack replacement so the replacement was the correct fix. However, only time will tell if it was just a bad batch, or if it will wear and start acting up again. In any event, by that time they will have a recall I'm sure. Annoying but I can't take a huge hit on trade in now.

 

[jsm59]

I've driven distances where it would act up prior to the rack replacement so the replacement was the correct fix. However, only time will tell if it was just a bad batch, or if it will wear and start acting up again. In any event, by that time they will have a recall I'm sure. Annoying but I can't take a huge hit on trade in now.

Thanks.

I brought up at end of my post... In process of replacing rack, is the ride, steering and overall "feel" of car same as before issue began (minus sticky steering)? Any noises, issues tracking straight, non-centered steering wheel, cosmetic things, etc? Getting at if dealer messed up anything in process as seems a big job? (Understood that each dealer can be very different).

 

[Lokke85]

No issues that I've noticed but yes, obviously going to be repair tech dependant. I definitely am not pleased that they had to make such a huge repair but steering alignment, etc is all fine (was one of my main concerns also). If this fails again I may just go with a couple year old Lexus UX and be done with it.

 

[TylerA]

Another one here 2022 Civic Touring with 10k km on it. I only found this forum while searching for answers on the notchy steering. I started noticing the issue at about 8k but seems worse today while driving in heavy rain on the highway. This is my wife’s car so I don’t drive it often but I find the steering super annoying on the highway. We’ve had other vehicles equipped with EPS, mostly Ford and Hyundai and have had no issues like this. Will follow up with our dealer in the next week or so.

 

[kev2069667]

22 si and similar issues to you guys. Feels like the first 3-5⁰ off center at highway speeds get no assist from the power steering. Then all of a sudden power steering is engaged and that causes the wheel to jerk. This makes keeping the car centered a jerky annoying and almost unsafe experience. It is sort of tolerable in normal steering and unbearable in sport mode.

I've reported to NHTSA and will ask about the software updates when I get my next oil change. I need to get the dash rattle TSB done also.

 

[SCSOCO]

i contacted honda directly and this was the reply i got as expected, but i feel we should all hit them so they know about it
“Thank you for contacting American Honda regarding your concern about the Steering Issues for your 2022 Honda Civic. We want to thank you for providing us the opportunity to respond to your message. On behalf of American Honda Motor Co., Inc., we apologize for the circumstances which prompted you to contact us.

Upon further review of the circumstances regarding the issue, we were unable to find any open campaigns pertaining to this matter (e.g., safety recall, warranty extension or product update). As such, until there is a service bulletin to be released for this issue, we have no available fix. We can only advise to contact your local Honda Service Department for assistance.

Your case will be closed at this time, pending further information.

Sincerely,

American Honda Motor Co., Inc.”

 

[kev2069667]

i contacted honda directly and this was the reply i got as expected, but i feel we should all hit them so they know about it
“Thank you for contacting American Honda regarding your concern about the Steering Issues for your 2022 Honda Civic. We want to thank you for providing us the opportunity to respond to your message. On behalf of American Honda Motor Co., Inc., we apologize for the circumstances which prompted you to contact us.

Upon further review of the circumstances regarding the issue, we were unable to find any open campaigns pertaining to this matter (e.g., safety recall, warranty extension or product update). As such, until there is a service bulletin to be released for this issue, we have no available fix. We can only advise to contact your local Honda Service Department for assistance.

Your case will be closed at this time, pending further information.

Sincerely,

American Honda Motor Co., Inc.”

I just contacted honda as well. Under vehicles, concerns topic.
I basically told them what was going on and said I reported the issue to the NHTSA. I also told them between the steering that is difficult to keep in your lane and the rattles everywhere this is probably gonna be my last Honda. It doesn't matter how good driving dynamics are is the vehicle can't keep a lane properly and sounds like it's rattling apart. I've had a Nissan altima rental for the past month due to an not at fault accident. This altima is bland and a bit boring to drive but has zero rattles and normal steering. My wife's 9th gen civic has normal steering and a few rattles but nothing too crazy. My 2022 civic si sounds like the interior is falling apart and can't keep a lane for shit on the highway.

I hope honda Issues a tsb for this issue because it's pretty un excusable and mind blowing how the STEERING on a vehicle feels untested.

 

[Soap]

Honda called to tell me they finally received the rack for my car but I haven't noticed this issue again for several weeks. I am now wondering if I should bother bringing it in for the rack replacement or not. Just not sure that is really the issue since its currently driving normal.

 

[Fe2_Sirk]

Honda called to tell me they finally received the rack for my car but I haven't noticed this issue again for several weeks. I am now wondering if I should bother bringing it in for the rack replacement or not. Just not sure that is really the issue since its currently driving normal.

Hey, good afternoon everyone. I go by FE2_Sirk on my IG car page. I’ve had this exact issue that most of you are describing about a stiff steering wheel column. The steering will does not return back to its original direction especially on the freeway. I took it to my ocean Honda dealer. The senior advisor laughed at me when I explained what was going on. He said “never heard of this” I responded with there’s a first for everything on a new generation for civics. Left the car all day and received a call on 11/12/2022 saying I had aftermarket wheels. I said buddy, there are stock wheels and stock tires. Everything is OEM.

Called me later, saying I had a nail on my rear left side tire. I told him go ahead and patch it up. Finally, got a call right before closing time saying they couldn’t fix my tire so a free one was provided. His conclusion, was multiple technicians said it was fine while others felt stiffness/ what we are experiencing. I brought out to his attention that people have been getting there steering racks replaced. I got home and see my stock rim was curb rashed from them installing a new tire. All they did was recalibrate my car and said let me know how it feels if not bring it back again.

Fast forward, a month later 12/28/2022. Same issue is happening but I haven’t had time to take it to the dealer. Talked with the same senior advisor and he tells me another civic came with the same issue 2 days ago that I’m describing. Left my car and he calls later saying on of his worker wants to test drive the car and take it home to experience it on longer roads and freeways. I told go ahead as it seems you think I’m lying. I call the next day and his answer was they test drove it and it feels the same as any other civic 2022. “There’s stiffness but that’s completely normal.” I told him it wasn’t like this when I drove it out the lot. I will be picking up my car in about a hour.

*******IMPORTANT
I contacted a Lemon Law Attorney and explained everything that’s going on. She said to keep all the paperwork and ask them to print out what they did to diagnose my car for their conclusion. The lawyer said my case is strong but to take it to 3rd time (different Honda dealer) and will be filing a demand letter to Honda. Lastly, I was never provided with a loaner or car rental while I think this car should be considered dangerous to drive. Not even a shuttle to get home or to work. I will keep everyone posted on my situation. IG: FE2_SIRK

 

[kev2069667]

2022 HONDA CIVIC 4 DR FWD | NHTSA

www.nhtsa.gov

56 complaints as of right now. Make sure everyone reports this to Honda as well. The more noise is made, the more likely Honda will address the issue.

 

[cipherzero9]

'22 touring here, having the same issue. This is a 2nd vehicle and I don't drive often as I WFH, but ever since I passed 4k miles (5.5k currently) I noticed this steering issue. It was very noticeable on a recent roadtrip, maintaining center line was frustrating with the notchiness of the steering rack. Glad to see I am not imagining it, will be scheduling with the dealer soon.

 

[johntracy1102]

I have a Honda FTS (Field Technical Specialist) meeting me at my dealership this Thursday morning (1/5/23) for an inspection and road test. Wish me luck. In addition to reporting the issue to the NHTSA, I highly recommend filing for arbitration via NCDSusa.org (it was quick, they are responsive, and AHM responded quickly once an arbitration teleconference was scheduled).

 

[johntracy1102]

UPDATE: completed ride along test drive with Honda FTS. He was able to experience the notchy/sticky steering. FTS did some research, and noted Honda Engineering had received several dealer calls about this issue. They have an active investigation ongoing with the hope of an TSB or recall to come. For me, they offered to replace the rack. Of course, I said yes. I’m assuming that I will hear that the assembly is on back order.

 

[Soap]

UPDATE: completed ride along test drive with Honda FTS. He was able to experience the notchy/sticky steering. FTS did some research, and noted Honda Engineering had received several dealer calls about this issue. They have an active investigation ongoing with the hope of an TSB or recall to come. For me, they offered to replace the rack. Of course, I said yes. I’m assuming that I will hear that the assembly is on back order.

Thanks for the update, I did end up cancelling my rack replacement since the problem has gone away but still watching this closely.

 

[catatoullie]

Gonna add on my experience with this issue.. note that Honda Canada may be handling this differently than the US counterpart.

Also, I have not resolved it yet, I am still in the processes of getting this handled.

I started experiencing the sticky steering at 9,000 km. They took it for a test drive, called back and said they found nothing.
Here is the full statement from the service report..

Performed scan and no codes stored. No leaks found. Everything is secure and tight. Performed road-test of a few of the same model and found response to be the same. Contacted Honda Canada technical assistance line to verify that this is a normal condition and it was verified that it is normal response of the power steering. At around 65/km the gear ratio in the steering changes to the 3rd ratio which tightens the steering even if lane departure/watch is disengaged. This is a standard feature.

Seems like they're doing their best to dodge having to deal with it until they know what it is for sure.. They told me they don't want to replace the steering rack because that could cost them ~$2,100 if the issue still persists afterwards.

Shop foreman said he's had three other cars with this issue but no resolve with any of them.

Currently waiting to hear back with a follow up. Thinking of leaving my car with them until this is sorted.

 

[Alie39]

Update from my last post* Honda replaced the steering rack and I just picked the car up and so far so good! Let’s hope it stays this way

 

[Alie39]

Gonna add on my experience with this issue.. note that Honda Canada may be handling this differently than the US counterpart.

Also, I have not resolved it yet, I am still in the processes of getting this handled.

I started experiencing the sticky steering at 9,000 km. They took it for a test drive, called back and said they found nothing.
Here is the full statement from the service report..



Seems like they're doing their best to dodge having to deal with it until they know what it is for sure.. They told me they don't want to replace the steering rack because that could cost them ~$2,100 if the issue still persists afterwards.

Shop foreman said he's had three other cars with this issue but no resolve with any of them.

Currently waiting to hear back with a follow up. Thinking of leaving my car with them until this is sorted.

I live in Canada and I was to the dealer twice before they fixed my car 2022 Honda Civic sport with 15,000km I also messaged Honda Canada personally and they have been in close contact with me since the email and with my dealer. They will fix it you just need to be insistent..I was going to stop till they did because it is completely not safe!