US probes reports of steering glitch on newer Honda Civics
U.S. auto safety regulators are investigating complaints from Honda Civic drivers that their steering can stick, causing a momentary increase in effort and increasing the risk of a crash
I have read most of the complaints filed with the NHTSA, and I don’t think those people are confused with LKAS. They describe the steering suddenly becoming increasingly difficult during highway speeds, and that it feels as though the power steering has failed, randomly, and for a sustained period.I can understand the viewpoint of some consumers confusion with LKAS.
Can you post a link I would be interested in seeing the specifics. Make, Model, etc.I have read most of the complaints filed with the NHTSA, and I don’t think those people are confused with LKAS. They describe the steering suddenly becoming increasingly difficult during highway speeds, and that it feels as though the power steering has failed, randomly, and for a sustained period.
Yes, post #15 in this thread. All are Gen 11 Civics, though none mention Model/Trim. I have not seen any specific data, but I think it may be only Canada Sedans, not US hatchbacks, but that is just anecdotal.Can you post a link I would be interested in seeing the specifics. Make, Model, etc.
Exactly I wish there was a breakout of trim line...I read some and some of them are just a repeat of the others...Yes, post #15 in this thread. All are Gen 11 Civics, though none mention Model/Trim. I have not seen any specific data, but I think it may be only Canada Sedans, not US hatchbacks, but that is just anecdotal.
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The lead investigator announced that they were conducting interviews of each of the individuals to get more extensive information, after which they evaluate the results and then work with the manufacturer to determine the scope of the recall (if any).I don't know how often that really happens or if they just work directly with Manufacturer?
I'm having this issue with my US made '22 EX-L hatch. It's not as severe as some other people's descriptions seem to be, but it's there.Yes, post #15 in this thread. All are Gen 11 Civics, though none mention Model/Trim. I have not seen any specific data, but I think it may be only Canada Sedans, not US hatchbacks, but that is just anecdotal.
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Yeah, I thought it may have been just the sedans, but there are some hatches in there. My Sport Touring hatch doesn't have any "symptoms".I'm having this issue with my US made '22 EX-L hatch. It's not as severe as some other people's descriptions seem to be, but it's there.
The issue has nothing to do with LKAS.I have not noticed anything as of yet with my 2022 Civic Si Build Date Oct 2022. I guess I would fit into the category of low mileage with 5,749. I can understand the viewpoint of some consumers confusion with LKAS. Especially if people don't understand how it works or even bother to open the owner's manual. Waiting to see what becomes of this as an actual recall.
-Aaron
Definitely, and part of me wishes we had more info about the cars affected to try and find correlation, but i feel like more speculation isn't really practically helpful because we already have people making wild speculations based on very little information so I can only imagine the conspiracies that would come out of them. However I would be very surprised if they do a total recall (haHA!), just based on the number of affected units as a percentage, and knowing how many components actually make up the rack. My gut tells me this is an issue with the seals inside of some racks (most likely coming from Gates) and/or the assembly process. The failures are too infrequent overall, and too sporadic based on mileage (some people have issues at 4000 miles, some at 45,000 miles) to lead me to believe this is an outright design flaw with the rack. I'll look at mine again at the next oil change to see if there's any seepage happening, but then again I have no symptomsYeah, I thought it may have been just the sedans, but there are some hatches in there. My Sport Touring hatch doesn't have any "symptoms".
Whatever it is, it's thankfully not widespread. It'll be interesting to see what the answer is.
It’s funny that no one thought of that. I refer you to #4 of this thread. I also wonder why other cars such as Corolla, mazda3 etc. don’t have this type of complaint on NHTSA website they are not equipped with this unheard of “advanced” LKAS technology? I understand Si guys/girls are very enthusiastic about their Honda, but for an issue that’s safety related should be something that everyone can agree on.I have not noticed anything as of yet with my 2022 Civic Si Build Date Oct 2022. I guess I would fit into the category of low mileage with 5,749. I can understand the viewpoint of some consumers confusion with LKAS. Especially if people don't understand how it works or even bother to open the owner's manual. Waiting to see what becomes of this as an actual recall.
-Aaron
The problem is the torque angle sensor goes bad in the rack but its non replaceable.. whole rack gets replacedDefinitely, and part of me wishes we had more info about the cars affected to try and find correlation, but i feel like more speculation isn't really practically helpful because we already have people making wild speculations based on very little information so I can only imagine the conspiracies that would come out of them. However I would be very surprised if they do a total recall (haHA!), just based on the number of affected units as a percentage, and knowing how many components actually make up the rack. My gut tells me this is an issue with the seals inside of some racks (most likely coming from Gates) and/or the assembly process. The failures are too infrequent overall, and too sporadic based on mileage (some people have issues at 4000 miles, some at 45,000 miles) to lead me to believe this is an outright design flaw with the rack. I'll look at mine again at the next oil change to see if there's any seepage happening, but then again I have no symptoms
Well since you already have that figured out, you should let the NHTSA know about it. Save everyone a lot of time and get the defective units replaced.The problem is the torque angle sensor goes bad in the rack but its non replaceable.. whole rack gets replaced
Im in Canda.. we dont deal with the nhtsa.. but this was coming from the Honda dealership.. they knew right away the problem and ordered me a rack instantlyWell since you already have that figured out, you should let the NHTSA know about it. Save everyone a lot of time and get the defective units replaced.
Well, gee, since your Honda dealer has figured it out, they can report it to Honda and solve the matter for everyone.Im in Canda.. we dont deal with the nhtsa.. but this was coming from the Honda dealership.. they knew right away the problem and ordered me a rack instantly
Supposedly honda knows.. 🤷🏻‍♂️Well, gee, since your Honda dealer has figured it out, they can report it to Honda and solve the matter for everyone.
Interesting......first I've heard of it.Supposedly honda knows.. 🤷🏻‍♂️
OK, not to beat a dead horse, but what your Honda dealer told you does not make any sense.The problem is the torque angle sensor goes bad in the rack but its non replaceable.. whole rack gets replaced