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Did my first oil change

7.9K views 23 replies 12 participants last post by  stanofthepeople  
#1 ·
I hit the 5k mile mark this week and decided to do an oil change. Pretty easy but man the factory put that little oil filter on there TIGHT. My regular old oil filter strap wrench wouldn't cut it and I had to use a big pair of Channel-locks.

I did an internet search to try find out how to force start the ICE after putting in the new oil and got some interesting AI results. According to the new Artificial Intelligence response all you have to do for the 2025 Civic Hybrid is:

Step on brake pedal with right foot
Push clutch pedal fully down with left foot
Press the START button

Other than that bogus advice I wasn't able to find the procedure (I know it's out there) so what I did was just crank up the heat to full and it fired right up.

Another bad answer I got from AI was that the oil capacity of the 2025 Civic Hybrid with 2.0L engine is 5.4 qts. I decided to doublecheck the manual and it's 4.2 qts.

Having so much information right at your fingertips isn't that great if 80% of it is wrong o_O I think this "AI" stuff is a whole bunch of bull.
 
#2 ·
There is a Maintenance Mode to allow you to have the engine start and run regardless of HV battery SOC. Used by the dealerships to diagnose any engine related issues - they can’t have an engine cutting in and out whilst trying to diagnose an issue.
 
#6 ·
Apply parking brake.
  1. Push Start button twice for ignition on
  2. Press accelerator pedal twice
  3. Hold brake pedal, shift to neutral, release brake pedal
  4. Press accelerator pedal twice
  5. Press brake pedal and hold
  6. Shift into park, release brake pedal
  7. Press accelerator pedal twice
  8. Hold brake pedal and press push start button once
To Exit Maintenance Mode:

Press start button once to exit.
 
#10 ·
I'm going to make a confession. I trusted the info I got on the internet and poured the entire five quarts of Mobile 1 into my engine before double checking in the manual. So I put eight tenths of a quart to much in. Checking the dipstick, sure enough, it was way over the top line.

Fortunately I'm a retired airline mechanic and I've got more tools than you can shake a stick at so all it took was an old hand pumped Mighty-Vac and some quarter inch surgical hose snaked down the dipstick tube to extract the excess.

The moral of the story is - read your manual - don't trust what you get from an internet search. There is no oversight on what is posted out there. Of course I knew that but just got lazy.
 
#11 ·
NO matter what manual said the way I do oil change is start with 4 litres and check with dipstick; then add a bit, check, add, check. When it is between lines, do short drive, check again. Repeat until it is steady between lines.
Plus I have EZ Oil Drain valve so no tools needed to fool around with unscrewing/screwing. I HOPE Honda kept the same size of oil nut so I can reuse my EZ.
Anybody knows exact size of that oil nut in Hybrid Civic?
 
#13 ·
Gold Plug is still a NUT.
EZ Oil Valve you screw once and to remove oil just use the lever to let out out. Then shut it off, pour fresh oil and you are good to go. No tools needed.

But your Gold is good alternative to OEM plug. Now... OEM being most likely some ferrous alloy why not use some strong magnet and make it magnetic?
 
#16 ·
You would have to hook up an oil pressure sensing switch to a timer like they do on airplanes. That would tell you how many hours it had but not miles. There may be some data stored in the computer that would give you that information but I can't say for sure or how to access it.
 
#18 ·
Two things.
I just noticed this thread and ask: Why do the first oil change yourself ? Isn't it free from Honda? It is in US. Second, just a comment on engine hours. My corvette records running hours. I assume many high end cars have the same feature but would not expect the low cost Civic Hybrid to display it.

My first oil change story. I was 26 and in 1977 I had a new 1976 Civic CVCC. The filter was also hard to remove and then the "O" ring seal stuck to the engine block - I had no idea. So I had two rubber seals after I installed the new filter and that is a no no. The filter let go on a Connecticut highway with our baby in the back car seat. Oil everywhere but I shut it down immediately. No damage but we were late getting to our destination. :p
 
#19 ·
Because the oil interval is too long. Honda says 10,000 miles and dealers refuse to do it any sooner. My 2025 has 3500 miles and it says oil has 70% oil life left. I actually changed it at 1500 miles and did not reset the oil life setting. When it get's to 90% or close to a year old I'll get Honda to do the free oil change.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Do your own calculations then because 2025 no longer lists an interval. Every 1000 miles is 10% oil life. The dealer says one free service at 10k miles. The maintenance schedule page no longer exists in the 2025 owners manual. I don't see anything in writing on the window sticker. But here is the info from the manual.
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#23 ·
^ it went from the

"MM is sooo advance the honda engineerings engineered the shit out of the MM you backyard mechanics dont know any better!!!!'

to

"every 1000 equals 10% oil life"

hahaha
Well you have the info right there. First it only moves at 10% intervals, and clearly shows that in the first pic and currently I have 3500 miles on my civic and showing 70% left. At 4k it will have 60% oil life left. It was at 90% at 1k miles and 80% at 2k.