Here's what I learned at the car dealer yesterday:
- Last month the dealer ordered 100 cars. Only 20 of those orders were accepted -- 20%.
- They do not know which orders were accepted. (sounds crazy!)
- He says my name is attached to one of the orders... mostly because Honda tracks to make sure I don't order the same car from several different dealers to hedge my bets. (If that happens, Honda bumps out one of the orders).
- He could not produce a document with my order with my name attached. He says they don't complete the order with me until Honda has accepted the order. ie, they really are a no BS dealership! Having an order and a down payment with a dealer doesn't mean you actually have an order in. You have to win the stupid Honda 20% lottery first!
- They -- literally -- only had ONE new car on the lot they could sell. One Pilot. EVERY car coming in has a buyer.
- They have ZERO information from Honda about what they're building when.
- He said it was likely that 2023 cars will start showing up any time now. Odyssey and HRV are already 2023 models.
- Order/build reports to the dealer are updated throughout the day... ie, if one of the orders gets a build date, they'll see it when they check their report.
- He said they don't build cars in batches, they build a whole bunch of different models at the same time.
- He said chips and parts aren't the only problem: he said there are 600 cars sitting in Ohio, because there aren't enough truck drivers to move them out. SO, all the people wondering how long for delivery after the car is built? It's as much a crap shoot as anything else!
- I have no idea how car dealers are paying their bills.
- Talking to my salesguy Pierre in person was great, because he was thinking of me the next day when they buyer for an Si couldn't get financing, he actually called me first to see if I wanted it! (It was tempting, but I think I really want the hatchback.)
- He suggested I keep checking in every couple weeks like I've been doing. But he said if my "order" gets accepted it will be allotted to me, not someone else, he just might not get around to contacting me about it. (I was a little fuzzy on this part).
- I've mentioned before, Serra Honda in Michigan seems like a straight-shooting MSRP dealer. They can't get you a car quicker, but I'm comfortable with their honesty and can-do attitude.
- Surprisingly, they were not at all aggressive with the trade-in appraisal for my current '17 hatch. It's super cute, could have been quick money for them, even at the high-ish price I was looking for. But I can't sell it now anyway, until I get at least a build date on the new one, maybe they knew that.
In other news, I've been driving my mom's 2020 Ford Escape, and on top of the legion of bad design choices, the thing has massive electric/battery system flaws. What a POS!!!! Totally worth it to wait for a Honda.