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Here Honda outlines what's included in the first ever Bose audio system in a Civic!

Civic First Bose Premium Sound System
Touring trims also feature the first use of Bose audio in a Civic. With Bose Centerpoint 2 and Bose SurroundStage digital signal processing, the new system was custom-engineered precisely for the Civic’s new interior so drivers and passengers – regardless of their seating position – are placed in the middle of the music, with a clear and spacious listening experience for all audio content.

Expert audio engineers developed the Bose sound system with advanced components and technologies, working closely with Honda engineers to integrate the system early in the vehicle design process for optimal performance. Clear, impactful sound is delivered through high-performance Bose speakers, strategically placed throughout the Civic’s interior for exceptional music reproduction across all frequencies, low to high.

Helping to preserve the quality of the listening experience, Dynamic Speed Compensation technology automatically adjusts volume and tone based on vehicle speed, reducing the need for drivers to manually adjust settings while on the road.

Bose Premium Sound System Details:
  • One 3.25-inch (80 mm) Bose Twiddler mid/high-range speaker in the center of the instrument panel.
  • Four 1-inch (25 mm) lightweight neodymium tweeters – one in each A-pillar and one in each rear door.
  • Two 6.5-inch (165 mm) wide-range speakers – one in each front door.
  • Two 5.25-inch (130 mm) wide-range speakers – one in each rear door.
  • Two 3.25-inch (80 mm) Bose Twiddler mid/high-range speakers – one on each side of the rear deck.
  • One 8-inch (200 mm) woofer in the center of the rear deck.
  • A Bose digital amplifier with 12 channels of custom equalization and advanced digital signal processing.
 

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Any know if the front and rear door speakers size are the same for the non premium system?
Hi @Larone

Have you decided on what exact Kicker speaker model to get?
This is all we know about the Bose audio system so far...

Bose Premium Sound System Details:
  • One 3.25-inch (80 mm) Bose Twiddler mid/high-range speaker in the center of the instrument panel.
  • Four 1-inch (25 mm) lightweight neodymium tweeters – one in each A-pillar and one in each rear door.
  • Two 6.5-inch (165 mm) wide-range speakers – one in each front door.
  • Two 5.25-inch (130 mm) wide-range speakers – one in each rear door.
  • Two 3.25-inch (80 mm) Bose Twiddler mid/high-range speakers – one on each side of the rear deck.
  • One 8-inch (200 mm) woofer in the center of the rear deck.
  • A Bose digital amplifier with 12 channels of custom equalization and advanced digital signal processing.
 

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I would like to add that when playing music from "Android Auto" is a lot more amplified than when playing music from "Bluetooth Audio". I'm not sure why that is but apparently I can set the audio volume on "Bluetooth Audio" to the maximum volume level which is 40 units whereas using"Android Auto", 20 units or half the maximum volume level is loud enough.

EDIT: To anyone reading this thread but shouldn't the audio level volume be the same between "Android Auto" and "Bluetooth Audio"? There shouldn't be a large audio volume discrepancy.
 

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Yes some Kickers all around
In my younger days I would do the same thing, but I can't remember ever thinking the sound was that much better. I always found replacing the HU and keeping the factory speakers sounded better than the other way around (not that I think you should do that in your new Civic). Keep us posted if you swap them out.
 

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I would like to add that when playing music from "Android Auto" is a lot more amplified than when playing music from "Bluetooth Audio". I'm not sure why that is but apparently I can set the audio volume on "Bluetooth Audio" to the maximum volume level which is 40 units whereas using"Android Auto", 20 units or half the maximum volume level is loud enough.

EDIT: To anyone reading this thread but shouldn't the audio level volume be the same between "Android Auto" and "Bluetooth Audio"? There shouldn't be a large audio volume discrepancy.
Android auto is either wired or wifi, so higher bandwidth & quality then Bluetooth. Android auto only uses Bluetooth for calls.
 

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I would like to add that when playing music from "Android Auto" is a lot more amplified than when playing music from "Bluetooth Audio". I'm not sure why that is but apparently I can set the audio volume on "Bluetooth Audio" to the maximum volume level which is 40 units whereas using"Android Auto", 20 units or half the maximum volume level is loud enough.

Check volume on your phone. When in Bluetooth, some systems are affected by the volume level on your device. You may have to set your device level to max volume when using bluetooth and then adjust as needed on car controls.

EDIT: To anyone reading this thread but shouldn't the audio level volume be the same between "Android Auto" and "Bluetooth Audio"? There shouldn't be a large audio volume discrepancy.
 

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Does anyone know the wattage of the system in the Touring? It's the only one they don't tell the wattage on the Honda site. I want to know my wattage!
Hard to say for certain since neither Bose nor Honda publish the specs but if you look at the fuse for the system, it's a 30 amp fuse so you can roughly assume 360 watts (not sure if the subwoofer is amplified separately).
 

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I wonder why they won’t post the wattage. Must be sub par (less than 450)
Bose audio systems never publish the wattage, frequency response, etc., specs of ANY of their stuff

They say it's because their research shows perceived (subjective) sound quality has no real correlation to them, and they serve only to be nonsense benchmarks to raise customer price or somesuch


There are two reasons we cut out the specifications: 1) We don’t know of any measurements that actually determine anything about a product, and 2) Measurements are phony, in general, as they are printed.

Or, you could be of the opinion that Bose stuff is "all marketing hype for the gullible/susceptible" and that "without hard data and measurable performance stats it's all just bullshit" - the truth, as always, is probably somewhere in the middle

Bottom line is, though:
  • You won't find specs for the Bose system, because it's Bose
  • To my ear (who has in the past ripped out or replaced all components of a Bose audio system in a car - speakers, amp, sub, EQ), the stock one in 2022 Civic ST sounds pretty damn good. For the first time in 25 years and six cars, I am not going do do an aftermarket car audio upgrade.

Is it 100% of what I would want? No. But it's about 90%. And not worth the cost/effort to get it closer to 100%.
 

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Should I be looking at a setting that would enable the Dynamic Speed Compensation level when driving? Unless I haven't noticed, when driving on a highway with the Volume at 15 before I get on, I still have to incease the sound as my speed increases. Honestly I have never looked for a setting if it even exists?
 

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For those wondering how to get the best sound out of the bose.....it's simple. Plug in your phone or audio source through the USB. Streaming will downgrade the quality.
In both the integra els 3d and the bose Si you get better ,louder sound with it plugged in directly through android auto.
 

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use a decibel meter reader. Drive the Civic Touring on the highway. When the decibel meter reader reaches near 60 Db. Turn on the BOSE system and raise the volume until it cancels out the Cabin Road Noise.
Take a new Decibel Meter Reading. Using a dB Calculator Conversion, free web search online, Enter the Decibels and convert to Wattage. I believe the 2022 Honda Civic Touring Bose system is 100 to 120 watts. The reason BOSE no longer uses speaker frequency range, they did in the early 1980's when I had BOSE 901's and also Bose 301 Bookshelf speakers, is competition has matched and exceeded Bose performance. BOSE is not as good as they use to be several decades ago. They completely deny to give specifications like it is top secret. Jensen, Alpine, JBL, Kenwood, Sony, Pioneer, Yamaha, etc. - Bose don't list because they bank it all on their Brand Name of the past.

With those tiny and insignificant speakers, they cannot handle large wattage. But if you want loud, be sure not to blow out your eardrums. The BOSE 12 speaker system is in the low 25 percent of car stereo systems available in automobiles since 2020 meaning of all car manufacturers and their models/trims. Digital audio systems tend to have weak amplifiers. The Mazda3 BOSE system sounds better than Civic Touring. Premium Sound Systems are in upper tier vehicles which cost a lot of money.
Honda tried, did mediocre but they kept the MSRP of the Civic down while giving us a brand name Sound system. For $500 to $1000 more and a couple less speakers, you'd still have surround sound and a whole better system. Maybe Honda was trying to reduce the road noise we hear.

Frequency range is likely 80Hz to 15KHz lacking in highs and lows. (normal hearing 20Hz to 20KHz) something like 30Hz to 18KHz would be acceptable.

Bose Premium Sound System Details:
  • One 3.25-inch (80 mm) Bose Twiddler mid/high-range speaker in the center of the instrument panel.
  • Four 1-inch (25 mm) lightweight neodymium tweeters – one in each A-pillar and one in each rear door.
  • Two 6.5-inch (165 mm) wide-range speakers – one in each front door.
  • Two 5.25-inch (130 mm) wide-range speakers – one in each rear door.
  • Two 3.25-inch (80 mm) Bose Twiddler mid/high-range speakers – one on each side of the rear deck.
  • One 8-inch (200 mm) woofer in the center of the rear deck.
  • A Bose digital amplifier with 12 channels of custom equalization and advanced digital signal processing.
 

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use a decibel meter reader. Drive the Civic Touring on the highway. When the decibel meter reader reaches 60 Db. Turn on the BOSE system and raise the volume until it cancels out the Cabin Road Noise.
Take a new Decibel Meter Reading. Using a dB Calculator Conversion, free web search online, Enter the Decibels and convert to Wattage. I believe the 2022 Honda Civic Touring Bose system is 100 to 120 watts. The reason BOSE no longer uses speaker frequency range, they did in the early 1980's when I had BOSE 901's and also Bose 301 Bookshelf speakers, is competition has matched and exceeded Bose performance. BOSE is not as good as they use to be several decades ago. They completely deny to give specifications like it is top secret. Jensen, Alpine, JBL, Kenwood, Sony, Pioneer, Yamaha, etc. - Bose don't list because they bank it all on their Brand Name of the past.
And really,for like 99.89% of Honda customers that's how they market it and those that do buy into it don't really care. They haven't a clue about hz,or rms,or anything.
All they care about is overall sound. So your options are A the base models which sound like pppprrrttttt. Or the Bose which sounds better than any civic in the civic history.
Then if you really wanna take it up a notch get the integra els 3d which is about another 2 notches. But yeah in general even as much as an audiophile that I am, and I'm in my car a lot,the Bose is quite nice for bone stock. It's fine not els 3d but does do the job nicely. It would roughly cost you about 1600 minimum to do a system in the base models to achieve what the stock Bose does. But all in all wattage is only partial to the equation. Sensitivity and what not is all part of it too.
You can have a solid 50 watt system sound cleaner than say a half ass 500 watt system.
Hell my 5 watt house amp is louder than anything in any car from any factory but then again that's a whole different animal. Let's just enjoy the fact that the Bose does sound better in every way than the base models.
 
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