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Here's a review of my new 2025 Civic Si. This is actually my second Civic Si, having owned a 2005 for a couple years. (I loved that car!) I've already put just over 2,000 miles on my new Si since buying it new a month ago, so I figure this was a good time to post a review.

I purchased this Si a month ago. I traded in my 2024 Civic Sport Touring Hatchback 6MT for this car. I had put 22,000 miles on that Civic in less than a year. I liked the hatchback very much and it's a great car, but it was just never fun to drive. Having the manual transmission made it more engaging to drive but it was never actually fun, which is very important to me. Because the cars are so similar, you'll see a lot of comparisons between them below.

Likes:
Handling -- This is the best handling FWD car I've ever owned. The sport suspension, chassis stiffness, and LSD make for a pretty rewarding driving experience, even during my short work commute. Handling was a huge factor in my wanting to get out of the Sport Touring Hatchback. Basically, good driving dynamics were an absolute must-have in my next car, and the Si meets that need very well. There is a hint of understeer and a little body roll, but this is a street car and not a more track-focused machine, so it's fine. The ride quality is very good and not harsh at all, but a little "bouncy" on some uneven road surfaces.
Engine tune -- My new Si has the same engine as the Civic I traded in, but the Si obviously has more hp and torque. But also, the torque curve seems far more linear in the Si. In the Sport Touring, there was a lot of torque off the line, but it didn't seem like the engine really wanted to be revved up. By contrast, it seems to me the Si's engine builds torque more steadily and loves to be revved. I found myself short-shifting most of the time in the hatchback, in part to maximize fuel economy but also because it felt more natural with that engine's tune. The Si's mapping is different, sportier, and I'm revving the engine up more and really enjoying it.
Power -- Just enough in my opinion. I don't drive fast all that much, but I like to corner "spiritedly," so the Si delivers on having enough power on the road while handling very well on a twisty road. I wanted a little more power but without sacrificing good fuel economy. Speaking of which...
Fuel economy -- It's outstanding. I only have five tanks through my new Si so far, but I'm averaging 37.53 mpg, even driving the car kind of hard once in a while.
Looks -- The Si looks sporty in kind of a subtle way that seems perfect for the package. I wasn't thrilled about getting a primer gray car, but the Urban Gray Pearl has grown on me. Plus, I do like the looks of the black accents and wheels in combination with this paint. It makes it kind of a sleeper IMO. And when clean, it looks gorgeous in the sun!
Technology -- The tech in this car is the same as I had in the Sport Touring Hatchback, with the addition of a few performance gauges and the cool shift lights.
Sound -- I know this is a divisive thing, but I like the sound inside the car. Yes, I know it's fake, but I think it actually sounds decent, and hearing the engine noise encourages me to rev the car up a little more before upshifting, adding to the driving enjoyment.
Drive modes -- This is a minor thing, but I always used to put the Sport Touring in ECO mode when I got to the highway. It's nice not having to remember to do that since the Si doesn't have an ECO mode, and of course to put the car in Sport mode anytime I want.
Trunk size -- The cargo capacity of the trunk is terrific. The cargo area in the Civic sedan's trunk is actually longer front-to-back than in the Civic hatchback. Yes, you can put the seats down in the hatchback and have way more open space room, but since I never did that, just having a larger cargo area is great.
Quieter cabin -- There is a noticeable difference in the road noise volume in the Civic sedan vs. hatchback, and the reduction is very welcome for me.

Dislikes:
Seats -- I'm a big guy, and the thigh bolsters in the front seats dig into the backs of my legs. I'm getting used to it, and I'm planning to start working out again to lose weight (again) this winter, but for now the seats are very tight. For longer drives, I have a small foam rubber stadium seat cushion (like you'd use on bleacher seats) that I put on top of the Si's seat bottom, and this raises me up enough that it alleviates most of the pressure of the thigh bolsters.
Third brake light housing -- It's way too tall. Why on earth does the third brake light's housing need to stick up that high?! It impedes the sight in the rear view mirror. Very annoying. I know that seems like a petty gripe, but it's a legitimate one.
Rear view mirror -- Another petty gripe, but it's too stiff when I try to reposition it. It makes it feel cheap, which it is.
Incandescent light bulbs -- I almost immediately upgraded the rear turn signal lights, reverse lights, and trunk light to Lasfit LEDs, just as I did with the Sport Touring Hatchback. But a 2025 car that stickers for over $30K should already have LEDs all around. Same goes for the interior lights by the way. I know it's a cost-cutting move, but c'mon, Honda.
What I lost from the Sport Touring Hatchback -- Okay, so I knowingly and willingly gave up some nice features when I traded in my hatchback for a new Si. I don't miss all of them, and it's not like I can't live without all that stuff, but it was nice to have. So from the bells and whistles I lost, here's what I do miss:
--Power seats, which are way more adjustable than these manual seats. They were also softer and more comfortable.
--Auto-dimming mirrors, which is a feature you don't realize how much you love and rely upon until you don't have it anymore.
--Homelink in the rear-view mirror. Yes, I have a garage remote, but it was nice having it built into the car. The mirror was also nearly frameless, a neat luxury touch.
--Technology. It's neat having Google integrated into the new car, but it always doesn't work and play well with Apple Car Play, which I use all the time.
--Boost Blue Pearl paint color. I loved the Boost Blue color of my Civic hatchback. Please, Honda...please make the Si in more fun colors in the future.

I watched a number of car reviews on YouTube on both the 2022-24 Si and on the refreshed 2025 before I bought my car, plus I've watched a few since buying it. One of the best comments about the car was on the last review I watched - just last week - by Matt Maran Motoring. He said there's an intangible to the Si that makes it a much better car and daily driver than how it appears on its spec sheet. As far as I can remember, Matt is the only person who really captured that thought during their review of the refreshed Si.

Yes, I'm biased, but I absolutely agree with Matt Maran. This car feels special to me and it's a blast to drive. It's engaging, fun to toss around, looks great, gets great fuel economy, and has just enough power to be a fun daily driver. Affordable new cars like this are unfortunately getting to be rare, so I'm glad to have this one. I'm very happy with my new Civic Si, and I think I'll love this car for years to come.
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Solid review! Is there anything you plan to change about your Si to improve your day to day experience with it?

I've loved my '22 Si since I got it over a year ago. I'd love to take one of these out for a spin and see exactly how they've improved post-facelift. Also, that pearl is gorgeous in the sunlight! I've noticed that about a few of Honda's pearls (my Sonic Gray for example): it's a tad underwhelming, until the sun hits it and you see just how gorgeous it really is!
 
Interesting, I specifically went with the ST 6MT over the Si because of the hatch (very important to me) and deciding, based on a short test drive of the 10th gen Si (the 11th gen Si not being out yet at the time), that a Hondata tune of the ST would be like "90%" of what I'd get out of the Si.

Perhaps that's not accurate based on your direct comparison, "Having the manual transmission made it more engaging to drive but it was never actually fun"? (What wasn't fun?)
 
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Solid review! Is there anything you plan to change about your Si to improve your day to day experience with it?

I've loved my '22 Si since I got it over a year ago. I'd love to take one of these out for a spin and see exactly how they've improved post-facelift. Also, that pearl is gorgeous in the sunlight! I've noticed that about a few of Honda's pearls (my Sonic Gray for example): it's a tad underwhelming, until the sun hits it and you see just how gorgeous it really is!
Thanks!

I'm only planning a couple minor appearance/protection mods for now. Probably ceramic coating, 20% window tinting (side windows and rear glass), some door sill and bumper protectors (probably appliques). I had the OEM splash guards installed a week or two ago (not shown on the photo above). I'm also likely to get fluid film sprayed on before winter hits NE Ohio.
 
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Interesting, I specifically went with the ST 6MT over the Si because of the hatch (very important to me) and deciding, based on a short test drive of the 10th gen Si (the 11th gen Si not being out yet at the time), that a Hondata tune of the ST would be like "90%" of what I'd get out of the Si.

Perhaps that's not accurate based on your direct comparison, "Having the manual transmission made it more engaging to drive but it was never actually fun"? (What wasn't fun?)
I agree with you about the 90%. I went with an ST Hatch 6MT a year ago because I wanted the luxury features of the ST, I love hatchbacks (and wagons), and I loved the Boost Blue color. As I said above, it's a great car. I should also mention I test drove the Acura Integra A-Spec with manual transmission a couple times and seriously considered buying one. I figured the ST Hatch was the perfect compromise between the Civic Sport Hatchback and the Integra, and it was priced about halfway between those two cars. I'd have most of the features of the Acura without breaking the bank.

What wasn't fun was the excessive body roll when cornering hard. My last two cars before the ST Hatch handled better, especially the last one - a 2022 Mercedes-Benz C300 with AMG sport suspension. I bought a beefier rear sway bar for the ST to help, but never got around to installing it. It also seemed to me the rear suspension squatted a lot on hard takeoffs and acceleration, which was tough for me to take coming from a couple RWD (or RWD-biased) cars that didn't have that characteristic.

The other big thing was just wanting more power under the hood. My wife and I drove the car to Florida for a cruise and ended up spending an extra week there. Driving the ST Hatch in city traffic and on I-75 in Florida, it seemed a bit underpowered to me. People drive faster in Florida, and faster than I usually do. I know you can add some performance mods and/or tune the ST's engine to make more power, but I did not want to do that because: 1) I'm uncomfortable doing it, but more because 2) I didn't want any question of warranty coverage should something happen after modding or tuning the engine.

Again, the Sport Touring Hatchback 6MT is a terrific car, and it's pretty much a unicorn in the auto industry at this point. I just wanted a little more. I lost some nice features from the ST, but gained the driving dynamics I craved.
 
I agree with you about the 90%. I went with an ST Hatch 6MT a year ago because I wanted the luxury features of the ST, I love hatchbacks (and wagons), and I loved the Boost Blue color. As I said above, it's a great car. I should also mention I test drove the Acura Integra A-Spec with manual transmission a couple times and seriously considered buying one. I figured the ST Hatch was the perfect compromise between the Civic Sport Hatchback and the Integra, and it was priced about halfway between those two cars. I'd have most of the features of the Acura without breaking the bank.

What wasn't fun was the excessive body roll when cornering hard. My last two cars before the ST Hatch handled better, especially the last one - a 2022 Mercedes-Benz C300 with AMG sport suspension. I bought a beefier rear sway bar for the ST to help, but never got around to installing it. It also seemed to me the rear suspension squatted a lot on hard takeoffs and acceleration, which was tough for me to take coming from a couple RWD (or RWD-biased) cars that didn't have that characteristic.

The other big thing was just wanting more power under the hood. My wife and I drove the car to Florida for a cruise and ended up spending an extra week there. Driving the ST Hatch in city traffic and on I-75 in Florida, it seemed a bit underpowered to me. People drive faster in Florida, and faster than I usually do. I know you can add some performance mods and/or tune the ST's engine to make more power, but I did not want to do that because: 1) I'm uncomfortable doing it, but more because 2) I didn't want any question of warranty coverage should something happen after modding or tuning the engine.

Again, the Sport Touring Hatchback 6MT is a terrific car, and it's pretty much a unicorn in the auto industry at this point. I just wanted a little more. I lost some nice features from the ST, but gained the driving dynamics I craved.
Not a super huge fan of the suspension of the Sport Touring either. It definitely does not feel planted. My 2016 EXL even before adding Eibach lowering springs and a rear sway bar felt like it was on rails. I'm currently still on the stock springs and shocks, but did stiffen up the chassis with Rigid Collars, a rear sway bar and chassis bracing. It got rid of a lot of the body roll, but the rear still feels like its not planted. I still have Spoon Progressive Springs to install so hopefully that fixes the remaining suspension issues I have.

Besides the soft suspension, the only thing I wish it had like the Si is the LSD, that definitely would make driving more fun and would help put more power down even with a stock tune, but since I'm tuned now the power is definitely useable and a lot more fun to drive.

Glad you're enjoying the Si.
 
If anyone is wondering about the sedan vs. hatchback size comparisons, Autoblog did a luggage test a while back (https://www.autoblog.com/features/honda-civic-hatchback-luggage-test-2).

With rear seats up, the Civic sedans can hold 5 pieces of luggage compared to 4 with the hatchbacks. With rear seats down, the hatchback wins no contest on usable space.
 
Agree with you on the third brake light housing. A whole car can hide from view if it is close enough.

There are some corners where a car is hidden behind a small rise and it's necessary for me to look over my shoulder for a car after I pull out. Every time I do that, that brake light housing surprises me as a possible car came up on me fast.
 
If anyone is wondering about the sedan vs. hatchback size comparisons, Autoblog did a luggage test a while back (https://www.autoblog.com/features/honda-civic-hatchback-luggage-test-2).

With rear seats up, the Civic sedans can hold 5 pieces of luggage compared to 4 with the hatchbacks. With rear seats down, the hatchback wins no contest on usable space.
I could use an article like this that guides me on how to pack the hatch as efficiently as possible, I don’t think I made the best use of space on previous road trips.
 
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I could use an article like this that guides me on how to pack the hatch as efficiently as possible, I don’t think I made the best use of space on previous road trips.
I miss "the box test" from the reviews by TheStraightPipes. That was a fun feature with their reviews. I don't know why they dropped them.
 
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Here are a several more observations I forgot to mention yesterday.

The Si's steering is noticeably heavier than most of my previous cars, even in Normal mode. I didn't really like it at first, but now I'm used to it and it's fine. It feels more controllable during hard cornering, offering just the right amount of resistance IMO.

One of the things I love about the suspension is the car tracks well over bumps. In the ST Hatch and in a normal 8th gen. Civic sedan we had years ago, it seemed like the cars "skipped" to the side a little when you'd hit a bump in the road. (FWIW, I don't remember my 2005 Civic Si doing this.) It really unnerved my wife to the point where she didn't like driving that 8th gen. Civic. (It was actually her car first, but we ended up swapping vehicles at some point; she took my CRV, which she loved, and I took her Civic, which I really preferred. I've always liked smaller, zippy cars!) Anyway, the Si doesn't skip around like the other Civics we've owned, and it's a huge plus in my book.

The driver assistance features on the 2025 Si are slightly improved over the 2024 ST Hatch:
--The adaptive cruise control is a bit more seamless, not cutting off the power quite as abruptly, and the take-up to get back up to speed is maybe a little smoother, too.
--On the highway with cruise control and lane-keep assist on, I can go hands-free from the steering wheel longer before I get the 'steering input required' message. Not that I drive hands-free much, but it is nice during long drives to have a little break from steering, even if that's just twisting the top off a bottle of water.
--Often while cruising on the highway, I will hold the lower part of the steering wheel with just my left hand, resting my forearm on the door's armrest. But after a couple minutes in the ST hatch, the gauge cluster would show the 'steering input' message. With my new Si, I rarely see that message when holding the lower part of the steering wheel. Perhaps Honda modified the touch sensor in the wheel to go all the way around it now? Whatever the fix, I'm glad for the change.

Other minor things:
--I think the sedan is easier to see out of than the hatchback. The blind spots are smaller due to smaller C pillars and the fact they aren't as slanted.
--The key fob isn't as programmable with the Si. On the ST Hatch, I could program it to unlock all doors with one button press; with the Si you have to hit the unlock button twice. It's a small thing, but kind of a pain. I can't understand why Honda would differentiate this between Civic models, other than maybe to count one-press unlock as a luxury feature on higher trim variants.
--For whatever reason, the rear window and side mirror defrosters don't work as well on my Si as they did on the ST Hatch. I'll have the rear glass one checked out during my next dealer service visit.
--I wish the lower trim Civics had the LED turn signals in the side mirror housings. This is a safety 'miss' on Honda's part IMHO.
--For the first time, I'm considering a vanity plate for my car. It's an extra $50 annually in Ohio, which stinks, but the plate I want is available and I'm very tempted!

Thanks to everyone who's read these posts and liked and/or commented on them. This is a great community! :)
 
I find the ST 6MT a blast to drive so now I’m really intrigued about how the Si must handle
It's clear that they push it harder than I ever do, or rather, ever have the opportunity to do...!

I had a 2007 Acura TSX with Koni shocks that definitely felt more "planted" suspension-wise in twisty road driving, the 2022 ST is softer and "rolls" more, for sure.

But that's fixable, if I ever care to do so. I almost never get to drive such roads with clear traffic, and if I do go out for a pleasure drive where I literally go 1+ hours out of my way to reach such roads, I'll do it in my roadster instead. (Or motorcycle, if I'm solo!)

My ST is more "daily driver that's engaging and fun for the brief bursts of open road I get in it", for which the hatch utility as an SUV replacement was a must (e.g., for moving large boxes, plants, appliances, even bicycles, with the back seats dropped down).

I'm attracted to the idea of the new ST Hybrid hatchback, but I'm thinking not enough so as to sell my 6MT (the last of its kind, in a way), unless my wife wanted to get rid of her 2016 Civic coupe and we went to having just one car between the two of us. (She can't drive a manual, with arthritis flare-ups in her ankles.)
 
Here's a review of my new 2025 Civic Si. This is actually my second Civic Si, having owned a 2005 for a couple years. (I loved that car!) I've already put just over 2,000 miles on my new Si since buying it new a month ago, so I figure this was a good time to post a review.

I purchased this Si a month ago. I traded in my 2024 Civic Sport Touring Hatchback 6MT for this car. I had put 22,000 miles on that Civic in less than a year. I liked the hatchback very much and it's a great car, but it was just never fun to drive. Having the manual transmission made it more engaging to drive but it was never actually fun, which is very important to me. Because the cars are so similar, you'll see a lot of comparisons between them below.

Likes:
Handling -- This is the best handling FWD car I've ever owned. The sport suspension, chassis stiffness, and LSD make for a pretty rewarding driving experience, even during my short work commute. Handling was a huge factor in my wanting to get out of the Sport Touring Hatchback. Basically, good driving dynamics were an absolute must-have in my next car, and the Si meets that need very well. There is a hint of understeer and a little body roll, but this is a street car and not a more track-focused machine, so it's fine. The ride quality is very good and not harsh at all, but a little "bouncy" on some uneven road surfaces.
Engine tune -- My new Si has the same engine as the Civic I traded in, but the Si obviously has more hp and torque. But also, the torque curve seems far more linear in the Si. In the Sport Touring, there was a lot of torque off the line, but it didn't seem like the engine really wanted to be revved up. By contrast, it seems to me the Si's engine builds torque more steadily and loves to be revved. I found myself short-shifting most of the time in the hatchback, in part to maximize fuel economy but also because it felt more natural with that engine's tune. The Si's mapping is different, sportier, and I'm revving the engine up more and really enjoying it.
Power -- Just enough in my opinion. I don't drive fast all that much, but I like to corner "spiritedly," so the Si delivers on having enough power on the road while handling very well on a twisty road. I wanted a little more power but without sacrificing good fuel economy. Speaking of which...
Fuel economy -- It's outstanding. I only have five tanks through my new Si so far, but I'm averaging 37.53 mpg, even driving the car kind of hard once in a while.
Looks -- The Si looks sporty in kind of a subtle way that seems perfect for the package. I wasn't thrilled about getting a primer gray car, but the Urban Gray Pearl has grown on me. Plus, I do like the looks of the black accents and wheels in combination with this paint. It makes it kind of a sleeper IMO. And when clean, it looks gorgeous in the sun!
Technology -- The tech in this car is the same as I had in the Sport Touring Hatchback, with the addition of a few performance gauges and the cool shift lights.
Sound -- I know this is a divisive thing, but I like the sound inside the car. Yes, I know it's fake, but I think it actually sounds decent, and hearing the engine noise encourages me to rev the car up a little more before upshifting, adding to the driving enjoyment.
Drive modes -- This is a minor thing, but I always used to put the Sport Touring in ECO mode when I got to the highway. It's nice not having to remember to do that since the Si doesn't have an ECO mode, and of course to put the car in Sport mode anytime I want.
Trunk size -- The cargo capacity of the trunk is terrific. The cargo area in the Civic sedan's trunk is actually longer front-to-back than in the Civic hatchback. Yes, you can put the seats down in the hatchback and have way more open space room, but since I never did that, just having a larger cargo area is great.
Quieter cabin -- There is a noticeable difference in the road noise volume in the Civic sedan vs. hatchback, and the reduction is very welcome for me.

Dislikes:
Seats -- I'm a big guy, and the thigh bolsters in the front seats dig into the backs of my legs. I'm getting used to it, and I'm planning to start working out again to lose weight (again) this winter, but for now the seats are very tight. For longer drives, I have a small foam rubber stadium seat cushion (like you'd use on bleacher seats) that I put on top of the Si's seat bottom, and this raises me up enough that it alleviates most of the pressure of the thigh bolsters.
Third brake light housing -- It's way too tall. Why on earth does the third brake light's housing need to stick up that high?! It impedes the sight in the rear view mirror. Very annoying. I know that seems like a petty gripe, but it's a legitimate one.
Rear view mirror -- Another petty gripe, but it's too stiff when I try to reposition it. It makes it feel cheap, which it is.
Incandescent light bulbs -- I almost immediately upgraded the rear turn signal lights, reverse lights, and trunk light to Lasfit LEDs, just as I did with the Sport Touring Hatchback. But a 2025 car that stickers for over $30K should already have LEDs all around. Same goes for the interior lights by the way. I know it's a cost-cutting move, but c'mon, Honda.
What I lost from the Sport Touring Hatchback -- Okay, so I knowingly and willingly gave up some nice features when I traded in my hatchback for a new Si. I don't miss all of them, and it's not like I can't live without all that stuff, but it was nice to have. So from the bells and whistles I lost, here's what I do miss:
--Power seats, which are way more adjustable than these manual seats. They were also softer and more comfortable.
--Auto-dimming mirrors, which is a feature you don't realize how much you love and rely upon until you don't have it anymore.
--Homelink in the rear-view mirror. Yes, I have a garage remote, but it was nice having it built into the car. The mirror was also nearly frameless, a neat luxury touch.
--Technology. It's neat having Google integrated into the new car, but it always doesn't work and play well with Apple Car Play, which I use all the time.
--Boost Blue Pearl paint color. I loved the Boost Blue color of my Civic hatchback. Please, Honda...please make the Si in more fun colors in the future.

I watched a number of car reviews on YouTube on both the 2022-24 Si and on the refreshed 2025 before I bought my car, plus I've watched a few since buying it. One of the best comments about the car was on the last review I watched - just last week - by Matt Maran Motoring. He said there's an intangible to the Si that makes it a much better car and daily driver than how it appears on its spec sheet. As far as I can remember, Matt is the only person who really captured that thought during their review of the refreshed Si.

Yes, I'm biased, but I absolutely agree with Matt Maran. This car feels special to me and it's a blast to drive. It's engaging, fun to toss around, looks great, gets great fuel economy, and has just enough power to be a fun daily driver. Affordable new cars like this are unfortunately getting to be rare, so I'm glad to have this one. I'm very happy with my new Civic Si, and I think I'll love this car for years to come.
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Here's a review of my new 2025 Civic Si. This is actually my second Civic Si, having owned a 2005 for a couple years. (I loved that car!) I've already put just over 2,000 miles on my new Si since buying it new a month ago, so I figure this was a good time to post a review.

I purchased this Si a month ago. I traded in my 2024 Civic Sport Touring Hatchback 6MT for this car. I had put 22,000 miles on that Civic in less than a year. I liked the hatchback very much and it's a great car, but it was just never fun to drive. Having the manual transmission made it more engaging to drive but it was never actually fun, which is very important to me. Because the cars are so similar, you'll see a lot of comparisons between them below.

Likes:
Handling -- This is the best handling FWD car I've ever owned. The sport suspension, chassis stiffness, and LSD make for a pretty rewarding driving experience, even during my short work commute. Handling was a huge factor in my wanting to get out of the Sport Touring Hatchback. Basically, good driving dynamics were an absolute must-have in my next car, and the Si meets that need very well. There is a hint of understeer and a little body roll, but this is a street car and not a more track-focused machine, so it's fine. The ride quality is very good and not harsh at all, but a little "bouncy" on some uneven road surfaces.
Engine tune -- My new Si has the same engine as the Civic I traded in, but the Si obviously has more hp and torque. But also, the torque curve seems far more linear in the Si. In the Sport Touring, there was a lot of torque off the line, but it didn't seem like the engine really wanted to be revved up. By contrast, it seems to me the Si's engine builds torque more steadily and loves to be revved. I found myself short-shifting most of the time in the hatchback, in part to maximize fuel economy but also because it felt more natural with that engine's tune. The Si's mapping is different, sportier, and I'm revving the engine up more and really enjoying it.
Power -- Just enough in my opinion. I don't drive fast all that much, but I like to corner "spiritedly," so the Si delivers on having enough power on the road while handling very well on a twisty road. I wanted a little more power but without sacrificing good fuel economy. Speaking of which...
Fuel economy -- It's outstanding. I only have five tanks through my new Si so far, but I'm averaging 37.53 mpg, even driving the car kind of hard once in a while.
Looks -- The Si looks sporty in kind of a subtle way that seems perfect for the package. I wasn't thrilled about getting a primer gray car, but the Urban Gray Pearl has grown on me. Plus, I do like the looks of the black accents and wheels in combination with this paint. It makes it kind of a sleeper IMO. And when clean, it looks gorgeous in the sun!
Technology -- The tech in this car is the same as I had in the Sport Touring Hatchback, with the addition of a few performance gauges and the cool shift lights.
Sound -- I know this is a divisive thing, but I like the sound inside the car. Yes, I know it's fake, but I think it actually sounds decent, and hearing the engine noise encourages me to rev the car up a little more before upshifting, adding to the driving enjoyment.
Drive modes -- This is a minor thing, but I always used to put the Sport Touring in ECO mode when I got to the highway. It's nice not having to remember to do that since the Si doesn't have an ECO mode, and of course to put the car in Sport mode anytime I want.
Trunk size -- The cargo capacity of the trunk is terrific. The cargo area in the Civic sedan's trunk is actually longer front-to-back than in the Civic hatchback. Yes, you can put the seats down in the hatchback and have way more open space room, but since I never did that, just having a larger cargo area is great.
Quieter cabin -- There is a noticeable difference in the road noise volume in the Civic sedan vs. hatchback, and the reduction is very welcome for me.

Dislikes:
Seats -- I'm a big guy, and the thigh bolsters in the front seats dig into the backs of my legs. I'm getting used to it, and I'm planning to start working out again to lose weight (again) this winter, but for now the seats are very tight. For longer drives, I have a small foam rubber stadium seat cushion (like you'd use on bleacher seats) that I put on top of the Si's seat bottom, and this raises me up enough that it alleviates most of the pressure of the thigh bolsters.
Third brake light housing -- It's way too tall. Why on earth does the third brake light's housing need to stick up that high?! It impedes the sight in the rear view mirror. Very annoying. I know that seems like a petty gripe, but it's a legitimate one.
Rear view mirror -- Another petty gripe, but it's too stiff when I try to reposition it. It makes it feel cheap, which it is.
Incandescent light bulbs -- I almost immediately upgraded the rear turn signal lights, reverse lights, and trunk light to Lasfit LEDs, just as I did with the Sport Touring Hatchback. But a 2025 car that stickers for over $30K should already have LEDs all around. Same goes for the interior lights by the way. I know it's a cost-cutting move, but c'mon, Honda.
What I lost from the Sport Touring Hatchback -- Okay, so I knowingly and willingly gave up some nice features when I traded in my hatchback for a new Si. I don't miss all of them, and it's not like I can't live without all that stuff, but it was nice to have. So from the bells and whistles I lost, here's what I do miss:
--Power seats, which are way more adjustable than these manual seats. They were also softer and more comfortable.
--Auto-dimming mirrors, which is a feature you don't realize how much you love and rely upon until you don't have it anymore.
--Homelink in the rear-view mirror. Yes, I have a garage remote, but it was nice having it built into the car. The mirror was also nearly frameless, a neat luxury touch.
--Technology. It's neat having Google integrated into the new car, but it always doesn't work and play well with Apple Car Play, which I use all the time.
--Boost Blue Pearl paint color. I loved the Boost Blue color of my Civic hatchback. Please, Honda...please make the Si in more fun colors in the future.

I watched a number of car reviews on YouTube on both the 2022-24 Si and on the refreshed 2025 before I bought my car, plus I've watched a few since buying it. One of the best comments about the car was on the last review I watched - just last week - by Matt Maran Motoring. He said there's an intangible to the Si that makes it a much better car and daily driver than how it appears on its spec sheet. As far as I can remember, Matt is the only person who really captured that thought during their review of the refreshed Si.

Yes, I'm biased, but I absolutely agree with Matt Maran. This car feels special to me and it's a blast to drive. It's engaging, fun to toss around, looks great, gets great fuel economy, and has just enough power to be a fun daily driver. Affordable new cars like this are unfortunately getting to be rare, so I'm glad to have this one. I'm very happy with my new Civic Si, and I think I'll love this car for years to come.
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Awesome review! How do you clean your car?
 
Incandescent light bulbs - have an identical car and this is beyond ridic, you created a need where one doesn't exist. The existing bulbs are fine, cheap and I don't understand the point of blinding ppl behind you with bulbs that were made in China? And I also suspected the forum's obsession with the HB was a little over the top since the sedan's trunk is massive and you can still fold the seats down. I'd also bring attention to the fact this car is a manual WITH ADAPTIVE CRUISE! Don't get traffic jam assist since it's, well, a manual but wow. Works great.
 
Incandescent light bulbs - have an identical car and this is beyond ridic, you created a need where one doesn't exist. The existing bulbs are fine, cheap and I don't understand the point of blinding ppl behind you with bulbs that were made in China? And I also suspected the forum's obsession with the HB was a little over the top since the sedan's trunk is massive and you can still fold the seats down. I'd also bring attention to the fact this car is a manual WITH ADAPTIVE CRUISE! Don't get traffic jam assist since it's, well, a manual but wow. Works great.
Welcome to the forum Shartattack!
 
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Awesome review! How do you clean your car?
Sorry I never replied. I just saw this.

I know it's not a popular choice, but I normally use an automated car wash for the washes, then - if I have time - pull around and finish drying the car off with the provided microfiber towels, including wiping down door jambs, lights, front grill, etc. I vacuum occasionally, but should probably do it more often. I use a protectant spray for the dash and other parts once in a while, too.

My Si is never going to be the cleanest and best detailed car out there. Sadly, I just don't have the time to spend on it like that. But also, I'm not OCD about my car's appearance. ;)
 
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