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Entirely boils down to your driving behavior. Has nothing to do with break in, nothing to do with eco mode being on or off, or having to counter things like a different throttle map.

Reasons for poor fuel economy:
#1: You brake too much. This is the single biggest factor regardless of driving conditions. If you want to see an immediate, massive improvement in fuel economy, reduce the need to brake. That means coasting to a stop as early as you practically can, or keeping distance between you and the cars in front of you, so if traffic slows down, you don't need to bleed speed with your brakes.

#2: You spend a ton of time idling. Either in park with the car on, or your driving consists of tons of stop and go. Self explanatory; you're burning fuel without traveling any distance and this will bring your average MPG down.

#3: You don't hold speed when you should and spend a lot of time speeding up and slowing down. Same concept as braking excessively, but even in situations like on a highway cruise, if you're varying your speed and squirting throttle here and there, you'll bring your average down.

#4: You aren't cruising in the proper gear (for manual drivers). On something like the Si, cruising RPM should easily fall into the 1500-1800 range below highway speeds.

#5: You're carrying excessive load in the car. Tons of luggage, materials, chunky passengers, dead bodies, whatever. Drop em off.

Everything else is the small stuff. Leaving the windows down while having the A/C on causing drag and wasting efficiency on powering the A/C. Break-ins. Eco mode. All that stuff accounts for nothing in the grand scheme.

Anybody here getting outlying fuel efficiency is just driving selectively hard or hypermiling. All of our cars should be getting the same efficiency lol. And if someone's commute consists of spending a ton of time going 45-50mph without having to stop, they're going to have an insanely high average MPG versus the guy spending 80% of his commute in LA/NYC stop, or the guy that routinely goes on cross-town highways at 85mph.
 
You're probably using more gas (getting on the accelerator pedal) to overcome the auto-deadening of throttle that ECON mode applies, than driving normally with regular mode would do.

That's all it is. ECON mode is not some magic "and now you drive the same but use less gas!" thing, it's making the car slower/less responsive to throttle and slower to accelerate, assuming if you're the type to race stop light to stop light, this will make the car smooth things out for you.

ECON mode does pretty much nothing cruising at highway speeds compared to normal mode, but if you're regularly trying to pass people, it will make you use MORE gas to do it because you've told the care that's not your goal (ECON mode = "I want moderate pace, steady state driving pls").
Since econ mode is just adjusting the throttle map, if the driver is "countering" the dampened throttle, but the car is accelerating at the same pace (just with further throttle pedal travel), it's not using more fuel.
 
Edit a reply to an earlier post I realized they have a sports sedan. The only option with it is CVT. I don't know maybe going up and down hills. Being in Canada it could be the fuel mix. I know they've got a very specific special winter blend.

Well another factor that is being overlooked. Especially when comparing numbers with others. The CVT transmission increases fuel economy. It outperforms a manual transmission in that regard. I'm not sure which one the op has. The 23 sport hatch has the option between the two. The manual does have an econ mode though. A cvt can make all the gear ratios the manual can and everything in between it can't. It can make an infinite number of gear ratios. Even a 2 mm shift of the steel clad belt is considered a gear change. Sometimes I look down at the RPM gauge. I think man are we really doing 55 mph at just above idle on the RPMs? When it does change its ratios it walks up through them all. The RPMs just hold very low and steady. That took some getting used to for sure. Is CVT More Efficient Than Manual Transmission? - Ask Car Mechanic
 
Avoid hard acceleration and brake only when necessary will help greatly on gas consumption. I used to get 50MPG with my golf wagon 4motion when cruising 55 MPH. Still pretty new with the 2023 SI, so really can’t comment on the civic…
 
What fuel are yall running? They've got a lot of options now. I'm not a fan of the return on ethanol mixes. The days of a simple octane rating are over.
 
Costco 87 top tier since day one, my tire psi are correct as well. 10% ethanol mix here, you think for a civic it would be somewhat close to the 29 city with the CVT.
You would think where's that Civic of yours hiding? Don't keep us in the dark it's still a very nice car.🙂 You got a white one right?
 
I just bought my 2024 civic sport touring hatchback in manual transmission and it says I only get 18mpg. I drove 80 miles today. Everyone on the freeway seeemed like they were driving in reverse. Strange. Oh well. It was fun af. I didn’t buy this car for the mpg. I bought this car to rev high and go fast. It’s a turbo civic. What did you expect me to do? my cars bone stock right now. But with each paycheck, im Going to turn her into a beast! Vtec turbo dohc. Is this for real life?
 
Can someone explain this to me?
23.8 mpg with Econ mode on????
I have there’s issue with my car, saw many ppl have 35-38mpg that’s ridiculous
I have virtually the same issue. I now hate Honda Customer Assistance. 👎🏼👎🏼 oh incidentally, mine has 4600 miles on it with many 300+ mile trips. Never more than 27.2 MPG. 👎🏼🤣🤣
 
Entirely boils down to your driving behavior. Has nothing to do with break in, nothing to do with eco mode being on or off, or having to counter things like a different throttle map.

Reasons for poor fuel economy:
#1: You brake too much. This is the single biggest factor regardless of driving conditions. If you want to see an immediate, massive improvement in fuel economy, reduce the need to brake. That means coasting to a stop as early as you practically can, or keeping distance between you and the cars in front of you, so if traffic slows down, you don't need to bleed speed with your brakes.

#2: You spend a ton of time idling. Either in park with the car on, or your driving consists of tons of stop and go. Self explanatory; you're burning fuel without traveling any distance and this will bring your average MPG down.

#3: You don't hold speed when you should and spend a lot of time speeding up and slowing down. Same concept as braking excessively, but even in situations like on a highway cruise, if you're varying your speed and squirting throttle here and there, you'll bring your average down.

#4: You aren't cruising in the proper gear (for manual drivers). On something like the Si, cruising RPM should easily fall into the 1500-1800 range below highway speeds.

#5: You're carrying excessive load in the car. Tons of luggage, materials, chunky passengers, dead bodies, whatever. Drop em off.

Everything else is the small stuff. Leaving the windows down while having the A/C on causing drag and wasting efficiency on powering the A/C. Break-ins. Eco mode. All that stuff accounts for nothing in the grand scheme.

Anybody here getting outlying fuel efficiency is just driving selectively hard or hypermiling. All of our cars should be getting the same efficiency lol. And if someone's commute consists of spending a ton of time going 45-50mph without having to stop, they're going to have an insanely high average MPG versus the guy spending 80% of his commute in LA/NYC stop, or the guy that routinely goes on cross-town highways at 85mph.
What you posted is pure horse shit. Honda will tell you that their sticker info is simply “misleading.” Poor mileage on Civics is disappointing. 👎🏼
 
What you posted is pure horse shit. Honda will tell you that their sticker info is simply “misleading.” Poor mileage on Civics is disappointing. 👎🏼
You created an account just to bump an old thread about mileage?!?!?!?!

Also what he posted is entirely true. Depends on your driving behavior.

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About 25mpg here, mostly around town. Short commutes. 2.0cvt hatch.

I expect it will get better on the highway. But if it can't beat my Subaru getting 33 highway, 23 city, it'd be a disappointment ..

I find for very short trips, which is what we use it for (school, shopping, no commuting) - none of my cars would achieve over 25. It's simply not optimal to move 3000lbs of anything from 0 to 40 and then back to 0 six or eight times in a row.
 
So far I'm getting 28-31 city at just under 700 miles on the ODO. Obviously it ranges depending on how many times the accelerator comes in contact with the floor.
 
Even with cold temps, rush hour commutes, and winter gas, I'm getting 32-33 MPG right now.

Are you guys spending a lot of time at the drag strip or something?
 
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