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1) Don’t take everything you read on the internet as truth. A lot of people like to brag about their mileage.

2) On gas powered cars your mileage varies greatly depending on your driving habits. Expect 20 to 30 mpg in town depending on how long your trips are and how much stopping and starting you do. On the highway between 50 and 70 mph you should get 35 to 40 mpg.

3) To confirm that your car is ok, take it for a 1 hour drive on the highway between 50 and 70 mph and hold 1 speed. You should get at least 35 mpg.
 
Very hard to compare published numbers this time of the year in Canada. You need lots of warm up time for the engine to get most efficient, winter fuel blends, and idling kill fuel economy. Do you hit any Tim Hortons drive-thrus during the week ? Drive-thrus kill fuel economy numbers just like idling and remote start warm-up, Do you have remote start ?

Cold winter temps combined with winter fuel blends reduce fuel economy by at least 20-30% , then add in the other driving conditions to make it even worse. Colder temps mean denser air with more oxygen, so the engine adds more fuel. It reverses in summer temps and the engine reduces fuel when ambient temps are hot. All of my vehicles are down a good 30% from summer fuel economy, and I live in a warm part of Canada, your region may be worse.

Remember to check and pump up your tire pressures in cold winter temps as they are likely lower, tire pressures drop with colder temps, 35 psi measured cold is what I run.
 
I bought my civic sport touring 6-speed manual six days ago (hooray!). Living in the mid-Atlantic states, I can confirm around 40 mpg on a mostly-highway 70 miles yesterday. But it's been below 30 mpg for stop and go short drives. Small sample so far, I'll see what happens in the longer run.
 
My 2022 civic sport gets worse MPG's on economy than normal and that is on long (5hr) trips I do everyother week. Car currently has 19k miles on her. Weird.....
You're probably using more gas (getting on the accelerator pedal) to overcome the auto-deadening of throttle that ECON mode applies, than driving normally with regular mode would do.

That's all it is. ECON mode is not some magic "and now you drive the same but use less gas!" thing, it's making the car slower/less responsive to throttle and slower to accelerate, assuming if you're the type to race stop light to stop light, this will make the car smooth things out for you.

ECON mode does pretty much nothing cruising at highway speeds compared to normal mode, but if you're regularly trying to pass people, it will make you use MORE gas to do it because you've told the care that's not your goal (ECON mode = "I want moderate pace, steady state driving pls").
 
Can someone explain this to me?
23.8 mpg with Econ mode on????
I have there’s issue with my car, saw many ppl have 35-38mpg that’s ridiculous
First of all, your car is brand new and the engine hadn’t broken in yet. Your mileage will be low for a bit.
Secondly, take that ECO shit off and leave it in NORMAL. I only drive in normal and I average around 37mpg on the highway.
 
Can someone explain this to me?
23.8 mpg with Econ mode on????
I have there’s issue with my car, saw many ppl have 35-38mpg that’s ridiculous
I recently purchased a 2022 Honda Civic normally aspirated 2.0 ltr hatchback w/manual tranny and am experiencing very similar mileage numbers. I was caught by surprise at those values as well, and with one oil/filter change at 1100 miles and one planned at approximately 2200 miles, I'll keep an eye on any change in mileage numbers either way. I do expect as the engine accumulates miles, mileage numbers should climb at least with steady highway driving. I'll update this thread as the miles accumulate. Keep in mind, there are two different engine/transmission configurations which influence the mileage numbers achieved. The 1.5 ltr turbo w/the cvt/manual transmissions and the 2.0 ltr normally aspirated engine with both transmissions used depending on the vehicle designation/drivetrain configuration. As stated in other threads, driving conditions and other factors influence the numbers you experience as well. Honda has been at this for a good long time, so I do expect the mileage to climb over time.
 
What is the most likely "degree of freedom" to explain surprisingly poor fuel economy in a brand new car, versus "what everybody else gets", or "compared with every other car I've driven before"? The driver.

There is most likely some kind of driver behavior or use pattern thing at work, because these are combustion engines. Saying "there's something wrong with the car for me to get this kind of fuel economy!" (especially a brand new one) should be both highly unlikely, and relatively obvious.

And that is NOT throwing shade, like me saying "learn to drive, numbnuts!". Every car model is configured and tuned differently. What was the "sweet spot" for performance/economy in one car can be very different for another, even from previous generations of the same model, even if you have a 2.0 NA 11th Gen and used to drive an earlier gen NA Civic.

I recently purchased a 2022 Honda Civic normally aspirated 2.0 ltr hatchback w/manual tranny and am experiencing very similar mileage numbers. I was caught by surprise at those values as well, and with one oil/filter change at 1100 miles and one planned at approximately 2200 miles, I'll keep an eye on any change in mileage numbers either way. I do expect as the engine accumulates miles, mileage numbers should climb at least with steady highway driving. I'll update this thread as the miles accumulate.
"Breaking in" a new car has almost nothing to do with fuel economy, it has to do with long-term engine reliability in terms of piston seating and whatnot.

These are combustion engines, so there are only three ingredients in making the car go: fuel, air, and spark. If you haven't noticed the car "going" badly - sputtering, stuttering, lagging, engine revving super high for no obvious reason, etc., - then it's unlikely one of those three things are mechanically wrong.

Specifically, if the fuel injectors were pumping more fuel than needed into the engine - running "rich" - you would notice a smell of fuel, rough or high engine idle, and weird engine response. (I know this from personal experience.)

My advice: refill your tank, reset the MPG reading, and spend at least half an hour driving around consciously focusing on coasting as much as possible. Foot completely off the gas unless you are accelerating, and "pulse" when doing so (take your foot off the gas as soon as you reach the speed you intended).

My guess is you're still lightly pressing on the gas pedal to maintain constant speed, as if you were going uphill, when you don't have to be doing it in this car. Other cars I've driven would quickly slow down with the foot off the gas and needed constant light throttle just to maintain speed, not this one.

Or maybe you have a fuel line leak. Hope you don't smoke!
 
Can someone explain this to me?
23.8 mpg with Econ mode on????
I have there’s issue with my car, saw many ppl have 35-38mpg that’s ridiculous
Mine started really low like that and gradually increased as the time passed. I get about 28.3 on our Civic Sport Hatch (~3k miles) and we get awesome 36.5 miles on our Civic Touring Sedan (13k miles).
 
You're probably using more gas (getting on the accelerator pedal) to overcome the auto-deadening of throttle that ECON mode applies, than driving normally with regular mode would do.

That's all it is. ECON mode is not some magic "and now you drive the same but use less gas!" thing, it's making the car slower/less responsive to throttle and slower to accelerate, assuming if you're the type to race stop light to stop light, this will make the car smooth things out for you.

ECON mode does pretty much nothing cruising at highway speeds compared to normal mode, but if you're regularly trying to pass people, it will make you use MORE gas to do it because you've told the care that's not your goal (ECON mode = "I want moderate pace, steady state driving pls").
This, absolutely. I can think of one occasion (a long freeway cruise with a slight altitude decrease) where econ mode really benefited me. For stop and go driving where you have to constantly change speed and get up to speed quickly, Regular mode is far more efficient.
 
Mine started really low like that and gradually increased as the time passed. I get about 28.3 on our Civic Sport Hatch (~3k miles) and we get awesome 36.5 miles on our Civic Touring Sedan (13k miles).
Per my earlier post - when people say this, it is basically the driver (likely unconsciously) adjusting how they drive to fit how the car behaves.

The car isn't "breaking in" its engine, transmission, suspension, etc., to give you 33% more miles per gallon after a few months... You're making better use of its sweet spots and avoiding the, ... sour patches? Whatever is the opposite.

Do things "settle in" for a new car? Sure. But for fuel economy purposes, probably around 1 MPG or so in impact, and over the first 500 miles at best. If you see steady improvement over the first three months in MPG, ... dude, it's you, and it's nothing to be ashamed about, it's normal.
 
Per my earlier post - when people say this, it is basically the driver (likely unconsciously) adjusting how they drive to fit how the car behaves.

The car isn't "breaking in" its engine, transmission, suspension, etc., to give you 33% more miles per gallon after a few months... You're making better use of its sweet spots and avoiding the, ... sour patches? Whatever is the opposite.

Do things "settle in" for a new car? Sure. But for fuel economy purposes, probably around 1 MPG or so in impact, and over the first 500 miles at best. If you see steady improvement over the first three months in MPG, ... dude, it's you, and it's nothing to be ashamed about, it's normal.
Fake news bro.
 
Check your On Board Computer MPG against actual MPG (miles driven/gallons used), unlikely OBC is off. I have 1000 miles on mine now, did a check and have a 0.5 mpg difference (could be OBC or gas pump?).

I get 40 mpg on freeway (middle lane going the speed limit, no hills, Eco) and 30 overall and 23 in the city (lots of hills).

If you drive aggressively (which is OK, it's a fun car to drive) be realistic about your MPG it should be less than "slow lane" drivers.
 
Very hard to compare published numbers this time of the year in Canada. You need lots of warm up time for the engine to get most efficient, winter fuel blends, and idling kill fuel economy. Do you hit any Tim Hortons drive-thrus during the week ? Drive-thrus kill fuel economy numbers just like idling and remote start warm-up, Do you have remote start ?

Cold winter temps combined with winter fuel blends reduce fuel economy by at least 20-30% , then add in the other driving conditions to make it even worse. Colder temps mean denser air with more oxygen, so the engine adds more fuel. It reverses in summer temps and the engine reduces fuel when ambient temps are hot. All of my vehicles are down a good 30% from summer fuel economy, and I live in a warm part of Canada, your region may be worse.

Remember to check and pump up your tire pressures in cold winter temps as they are likely lower, tire pressures drop with colder temps, 35 psi measured cold is what I run.
Car calls for 32/33 psi?
 
Can someone explain this to me?
23.8 mpg with Econ mode on????
I have there’s issue with my car, saw many ppl have 35-38mpg that’s ridiculous
I've had my 2023 EX for about 6 weeks. Odometer is at 388 miles). I have the MPG and "estimated miles left" status on the left dash. I have noticed that the MPG was at around 28 MPG when I dreove it in the first week or two and now it is up to 33.1MPG. I mostly drive locally and have yet to go on a highway. So my driving is stop and go with very brief stretches of 40MPH speed. I am not mechanically inclined but I believe this is a good trend. If I see any drastic changes I'll report on this forum.
 
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