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Do you think it’s a good idea for us cold weather drivers to replace the OEM tires with Continental Extreme Contact DSM 6 Plus tires, that are the exact same size as the OEM if your not going to track the car ? Any thoughts before I pull the trigger. Getting them for $250 each I was told by the parts manager, that’s the only tire brand that makes the exact same size that fits the new type R
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As long as you don't drive in snow/ice conditions they would work fine, otherwise a dedicated set of snow tires is the way to go if you get those conditions in your area.

I've hit too many curbs in past winters when running all-seasons on FWD cars, understeering straight into curbs. The damage can be pretty expensive, and I now run winters on all of my cars.
 
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As long as you don't drive in snow/ice conditions they would work fine, otherwise a dedicated set of snow tires is the way to go if you get those conditions in your area.

I've hit too many curbs in past winters when running all-seasons on FWD cars, understeering straight into curbs. The damage can be pretty expensive, and I now run winters on all of my cars.
I was told today nobody makes a snow tire that fits that car unless you buy new rims as well ? You can get all season but not snows. That’s what the parts department told me today ! Pretty expensive just for 4 months
 
I was told today nobody makes a snow tire that fits that car unless you buy new rims as well ? You can get all season but not snows. That’s what the parts department told me today ! Pretty expensive just for 4 months
For winter you want to go with a narrow width tire for best traction if you truly get snow and ice in your region. If you mostly get slush or rain then you are fine, so I guess it depends on the weather you get in your region.

Honda steering racks are susceptible to bending internally if you smack the front end up against a curb, they bend real easy. That happened to me on my last Civic when I hit a patch of ice, it caused $3,500 worth of damage to replace the rack, and it wasn't even a big impact.
 
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As long as you don't drive in snow/ice conditions they would work fine, otherwise a dedicated set of snow tires is the way to go if you get those conditions in your area.

I've hit too many curbs in past winters when running all-seasons on FWD cars, understeering straight into curbs. The damage can be pretty expensive, and I now run winters on all of my cars.
I know exactly what you are talking about ! It happened to my brother who slid into a curb, supposedly only going 5 miles an hour in his Civic. All the airbags went off and one of his wheels was twisted sideways. Insurance company totaled the car ! Fortunately I grew up in MN and quite familiar since 1968 driving in Winter Conditions. Back then we didn’t even have Front Wheel Drive or Traction Control. We even had Studded Snow Tires back then now you can only find them in history books ! 😂 I am getting old. Not to mention been driving sticks almost my whole life. Thank You for your thoughts on the subject.
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I know exactly what you are talking about ! It happened to my brother who slid into a curb, supposedly only going 5 miles an hour in his Civic. All the airbags went off and one of his wheels was twisted sideways. Insurance company totaled the car ! Fortunately I grew up in MN and quite familiar since 1968 driving in Winter Conditions. Back then we didn’t even have Front Wheel Drive or Traction Control. We even had Studded Snow Tires back then now you can only find them in history books ! 😂 I am getting old. Not to mention been driving sticks almost my whole life. Thank You for your thoughts on the subject.
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yeah I wasn't driving very fast in my Civic when I slid into the curb, you just try to turn and the car goes straight, I hate the feeling. It is the ice under the snow that causes the problems, you don't see it though.

I've been driving in winter snow conditions for 40 years, I'm accident free other than hitting 2 curbs in the last 2 years, I think winter tires would have saved me. I drove on all seasons most of my driving years, but last few years I've switched to dedicated winter tires and I feel safer.
 
Alaska driver here. Winter driving has a lot to do with avoiding other drivers so I always find the best traction I can get, studded winter tires.

For your area it will come down to your own personal preference and risk.

All-season - Fresh snow, light ice.
Snow tires - Deep Layered snow, moderate ice.
Studded Snow - Idiots driving on snow, heavy ice/bridges/black ice.
 
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Alaska driver here. Winter driving has a lot to do with avoiding other drivers so I always find the best traction I can get, studded winter tires.

For your area it will come down to your own personal preference and risk.

All-season - Fresh snow, light ice.
Snow tires - Deep Layered snow, moderate ice.
Studded Snow - Idiots driving on snow, heavy ice/bridges/black ice.
Unfortunately illegal in the State.
 
Ah.

I personally wouldn't drive a Type-R in the winter but if one absolutely had to, I'd opt for heavier steel wheels with a narrower width, with dedicated snow tires.

18x8 would be ideal. It's been done on the previous gen.


...but, if you are a competent driver those DWS would be fine if the roads are treated/salted/beet juice, whatever you Mid-west boys/girls like to put on your roads.
 
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Ah.

I personally wouldn't drive a Type-R in the winter but if one absolutely had to, I'd opt for heavier steel wheels with a narrower width, with dedicated snow tires.

18x8 would be ideal. It's been done on the previous gen.


...but, if you are a competent driver those DWS would be fine if the roads are treated/salted/beet juice, whatever you Mid-west boys/girls like to put on your roads.
Thank You. I drove a new Hell Cat with all season tires. Only one problem when I couldn’t get it to go backwards in the snow , even with my 6 speed. Turned the traction control off and finally got it to go backwards out of the parking spot 😂
But I understand completely.
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I was in the same boat with my 2014 Focus ST when I got stationed in Alaska, so I can provide some perspective. The car came with 235/18 Eagle F1s so that wasn't going to work for the Alaska winter. I decided to do the drive from Florida to Anchorage in February so I ordered a set of the most aggressive studless Blizzaks in the stock size on Tire Rack and had them sent to a tire shop in Seatle. I drove across country and had the tires mounted before I crossed the border into Canada and drove through the Yukon all the way to Anchorage. The roads had about an inch of ice on them and the Blizzaks were fantastic, almost like driving on pavement most of the time. They were great in deep snow as well. I never had any issues going anywhere in Alaska. I will always recommend dedicated winter tires if it's in the budget and the car is a daily driver. They are an absolute game changer.

However....

Fast forward 6 months and I'm driving on the Glen Highway doing about 65 at night and a moose decides to use the same lane as me. Needless to say the ST was totaled. I had the Eagle F1s on at the time so I kept the Blizzaks for when I replaced the car. A few months later in January I bought a 2016 Focus ST, but this time it came with high performance all-season tires, 235/18 Pirelli P Zero Neros. Of course I expected these tires to be garbage in the snow and intended to get the Blizzaks mounted right away. I ended up keeping the P Zeros on until the following winter because they were surprisingly good in the snow and ice. They were no winter tire obviously but they handled just fine and I never felt unsafe.

So my advice is that based on how you intend to use the car all-season tires can work, but I would check out reviews on their winter performance before buying. If you want to drive the car every day and feel absolutely secure and confident, winter tires are the way to go. The real difference is that safety buffer and progressive breakaway characteristics that the winter tire will give you. On a car like the Type R it's probably worth it, even if you have to buy dedicated wheels. My Si came with the all-seasons, but if I was still in Alaska I'd be buying winter tires for it.
 
I had an FK8 which I never put winter tires on just the summer tires. I mean I never really drove it more than 80 miles in the cold(when I did drive it) I live in NY is it really that "dangerous" to drive with summer tires in the cold? The car was a garage queen in the winter and I just drove a jeep. I did drive the Type R long enough in the cold to maybe be worried, but I don't drive a car like that in snow and it didn't feel like the tires were going to crack apart and snap just driving them in freezing temps. I guess I'm just wondering if is it really that much of a risk. With the upcoming type R pending delivery I'm going to be getting all seasons since there are tire options now that don't require complete tire and wheel swaps. I was just googling and I see the Michelin Pilot All Season 4 doesn't come in 265/R19 so I guess I'd also be getting the conti's are they any good? I hated the ones that came on the FK8 they were summers, yes but they wore extremely quick.
 
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I had an FK8 which I never put winter tires on just the summer tires. I mean I never really drove it more than 80 miles in the cold(when I did drive it) I live in NY is it really that "dangerous" to drive with summer tires in the cold? The car was a garage queen in the winter and I just drove a jeep. I did drive the Type R long enough in the cold to maybe be worried, but I don't drive a car like that in snow and it didn't feel like the tires were going to crack apart and snap just driving them in freezing temps. I guess I'm just wondering if is it really that much of a risk. With the upcoming type R pending delivery I'm going to be getting all seasons since there are tire options now that don't require complete tire and wheel swaps. I was just googling and I see the Michelin Pilot All Season 4 doesn't come in 265/R19 so I guess I'd also be getting the conti's are they any good? I hated the ones that came on the FK8 they were summers, yes but they wore extremely quick.
Hello. I was told by the parts department at my Honda dealership that the only tire manufacturer that makes the same size right now as the OEM is the Continental all season extreme contact sport DWS 06 plus. New version! All the reviews I read are pretty good. Keeping the pilot cups for a summer tire or when I head back to AZ full time. They cost me I think around $1250 for everything. In MN for awhile so hopefully they will be ok for a little bit of snow ? Good Luck and enjoy your new car.
 
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