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Just curious. So I am coming close to the first 5000 miles in my 2022 si. I thought it might be a good time to check oil life and it is still at 60%..Does anyone know the suggested mileage to change it or do I just wait till the maintenance minder let’s me know..Always waited for my 9th gen to tell me and it was always around 4500 miles...
 
I waited till 9K and still had 15% on the maintenance minder. Oil was dark. Earlier is definitely better. From here on out, I’m doing every 5k just like my older vehicles. It’s cheap to do oil changes on this car if you do it yourself.
 
I am on the factory fill right now, with the factory oil having high levels of moly I will keep it in until the oil life monitor gets to about 20%. I like the idea of using the oil life monitor as I do a lot of highway driving, so it makes sense to go with the monitor in my case as it takes into account driving conditions.
 
Don't overthink it and do it when the maintenance minder tells you to. Factory filled oil is formulated differently and is for breaking in. The new oil is not. You'll be doing it a dis-service if changing too early.

also, the color of oil has zero to do with oil life.

If you're curious enough you can get an oil sample and send it to a lab such as Blackstone Laboratories. For $30-40 they will do an oil analysis and tell you what is in your oil and how much life is left. I do it on my motorcycles which I regularly run to 13k rpm and at 5000 miles it still has 35% life left.
 
You could certainly go much longer than that with Amsoil being one of the top 0w-20 oils available, I know it is your choice though.
I used to use Amsoil 0 W 20 on my 2002 Thunderbird as I only wanted the best. Where do you buy it from? Do auto stores carry it or do you have to order it?
 
I am on the factory fill right now, with the factory oil having high levels of moly I will keep it in until the oil life monitor gets to about 20%. I like the idea of using the oil life monitor as I do a lot of highway driving, so it makes sense to go with the monitor in my case as it takes into account driving conditions.
Can you please point me to some good resources to learn about factory oil verses the recommended Si oil (0-W20)? I'm at mile 350 in my new Si, and I was planning to change the oil at 600 miles, after break in. I have yet to sustain 4,000+ RPM for considerable time. But after I hit 600 miles I plan to let the throttle out and experience some torque. Are you saying that the factory oil is much higher quality than fresh synthetic? Even if it is dirty? Why does the color not matter? I've read a lot of different opinions. I'm planning to keep this car for 200k+ miles and want to do what I can right now to increase those odds... Thanks
 
Can you please point me to some good resources to learn about factory oil verses the recommended Si oil (0-W20)? I'm at mile 350 in my new Si, and I was planning to change the oil at 600 miles, after break in. I have yet to sustain 4,000+ RPM for considerable time. But after I hit 600 miles I plan to let the throttle out and experience some torque. Are you saying that the factory oil is much higher quality than fresh synthetic? Even if it is dirty? Why does the color not matter? I've read a lot of different opinions. I'm planning to keep this car for 200k+ miles and want to do what I can right now to increase those odds... Thanks
Hi, well it is a well known fact that Honda factory fill oil has tons of moly in it as an additive. Moly is a popular anti-wear extreme pressure additive. You can check some used oil analysis reports on Bobistheoilguy.com and see how much different the factory fill oil is compared to genuine honda oil supplied at the dealership. Colour means nothing on an oil, it can darken with heat even without any contaminants. The early oil change suggestions are old school when motors were built differently and oils weren't as advanced as they are now.
 
a lot of people overthink it. There is nothing wrong with that but not many people are mechanical engineers here. change the oil when the car tells you to. The maintenance minder takes in account engine stress and mileage so it'll know when to change the oil.
 
a lot of people overthink it. There is nothing wrong with that but not many people are mechanical engineers here. change the oil when the car tells you to. The maintenance minder takes in account engine stress and mileage so it'll know when to change the oil.
Even as a mechanical engineer here, every system is different and the field is so broad. Just follow the manufacturer recommendations.
 
You could certainly go much longer than that with Amsoil being one of the top 0w-20 oils available, I know it is your choice though.
It definitely looked pretty good after 5k but I do spirited driving pretty often so it is just peace of mind.

I used to use Amsoil 0 W 20 on my 2002 Thunderbird as I only wanted the best. Where do you buy it from? Do auto stores carry it or do you have to order it?
Pay for the preferred member premium when you buy for the first time it cuts the price per qt by 3$ ish
 
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Don't overthink it and do it when the maintenance minder tells you to. Factory filled oil is formulated differently and is for breaking in. The new oil is not. You'll be doing it a dis-service if changing too early.

also, the color of oil has zero to do with oil life.

If you're curious enough you can get an oil sample and send it to a lab such as Blackstone Laboratories. For $30-40 they will do an oil analysis and tell you what is in your oil and how much life is left. I do it on my motorcycles which I regularly run to 13k rpm and at 5000 miles it still has 35% life left.
would You say the car needs oil formulated for break in after 5k miles? What the civic is doing is what a lot of other manufacturers have done for years. Had a number of BMWs that did their version of the maintenance minder and it took into consideration number of cold starts, shifts above 4,500 rpm, etc. if you drove mellow on the highway, it meant somewhere in the vicinity of 15k mile intervals. That made me uneasy and I did interim changes.

I’m inclined to do every 5k miles myself. Inexpensive and can’t hurt but may very well help. Probably costs in the order of $600 more over a 5 year span (20k miles driven a year, 20 oil changes vs 10 for 100,000 miles at about $60 a pop)
 
There's no factory Honda special oil blend HOWEVER the parts are installed with special high moly grease..so it mixes with the standard full synthetic oil 0w-20. So it is actually best to let it run its course. Don't be afraid to run the oil till the car tells you. Unless it's been a year since car purchased. I went 5k and beat it hard after 1500 miles.im currently at 7900. I'll change probably around 10 or 12k
 
There's no factory Honda special oil blend HOWEVER the parts are installed with special high moly grease..so it mixes with the standard full synthetic oil 0w-20. So it is actually best to let it run its course. Don't be afraid to run the oil till the car tells you. Unless it's been a year since car purchased. I went 5k and beat it hard after 1500 miles.im currently at 7900. I'll change probably around 10 or 12k
thanks - appreciate the insight.
 
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